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Post by stealthmanbob on Nov 17, 2016 22:40:35 GMT 1
Leasing a not taken up plane from a lessor instead of ordering a new one is the kind of change that may occur between a MoU and a firm contract. I understand, it just means Airbus will have less firm orders to book. Or are these leases just temporary and will they firm up all orders? I'm also surprised Iran Air is taking aircraft with different cabins. Those A330s have an Avianca configured cabin. With 250+ Airbus/Boeing/ATR aircraft to order, one would think they design their own cabins. I don't think you realise how desperate Iran Air is, they need planes ASAP, the A300s are falling apart !
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Post by addasih on Nov 17, 2016 22:46:30 GMT 1
And before Donald Trump takes the office and block any future deals
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Post by stealthmanbob on Nov 17, 2016 23:46:21 GMT 1
And before Donald Trump takes the office and block any future deals As you did not quote a post I guess it was mine ? I think that might be the first Trump post ? I was hoping we would avoid it ! He will take over running the USA from late Jan 2017, he does not control Europe and he also does not like the UN, or NATO .....
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Post by Jkkw on Nov 18, 2016 0:49:10 GMT 1
And before Donald Trump takes the office and block any future deals As you did not quote a post I guess it was mine ? I think that might be the first Trump post ? I was hoping we would avoid it ! He will take over running the USA from late Jan 2017, he does not control Europe and he also does not like the UN, or NATO ..... He might not control Europe but due to the amount of components built in the US that are onboard Airbus aircraft, Airbus requires US approval to sell aircraft to Iran. In fact, the US House of Reps just voted to block the sale of Airbus and Boeing aircraft to Iran although the below article states it is unlikely to pass through the Senate and President Obama would use his powers of veto if it does pass the senate. www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-aviation-usa-idUSKBN13C2MJ
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Post by mjoelnir on Nov 18, 2016 3:22:57 GMT 1
And before Donald Trump takes the office and block any future deals As you did not quote a post I guess it was mine ? I think that might be the first Trump post ? I was hoping we would avoid it ! He will take over running the USA from late Jan 2017, he does not control Europe and he also does not like the UN, or NATO ..... How will it be possible to avoid Donald Trump? Should we ignore the USA government and its influence on the worlds aerospace industries and air transport business?
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Post by stealthmanbob on Nov 18, 2016 11:18:46 GMT 1
As you did not quote a post I guess it was mine ? I think that might be the first Trump post ? I was hoping we would avoid it ! He will take over running the USA from late Jan 2017, he does not control Europe and he also does not like the UN, or NATO ..... How will it be possible to avoid Donald Trump? Should we ignore the USA government and its influence on the worlds aerospace industries and air transport business? It was a joke, hence the !
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Post by peykan on Nov 19, 2016 17:35:15 GMT 1
As far as I know, these A330s haven’t made any commercial flights. On the other hand, Iran-Air is desperate to have some deliveries as soon as possible. This is mainly because US sanctions has made its fleet small and aging. Now, as a part of nuclear deal between Iran and some western countries (JCPOA), the sanctions are being removed and Iran-Air can renew its fleet. From Wikipedia: “By the late 1970s, Iran Air was the fastest growing airline in the world and one of the most profitable. By 1976, Iran Air was ranked second only to Qantas, as the world’s safest airline, having been accident free for at least ten consecutive years. Although both airlines were accident free, Iran Air came second only because of fewer operational hours flown compared to Qantas.” Don't believe all you read on Wiki ! Here is a picture of their fleet list from JP Airlines 1978 book. Not a big airline and not really expanding much ! PS the tsar of Iran was then overthrown in 1979 and things went down hill from there, sanctions etc .... You should consider the fleet size of other airlines in 70s and then compare them. Also please note that Wikipedia talks about “ fastest growing” airline, not the “biggest fleet size”. They had four 747-SPs and three 747 Classics, where for example Qantas had only four.- They had 2 Concords on order, and they were the only airline in Middle East who ordered Concord.
- They ordered seven A300s and they were the first airline in Middle East to receive that.
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Post by peykan on Nov 19, 2016 17:39:25 GMT 1
This is not true. The title is completely false. If you read the bill, you’ll see that it only prohibits Boeing from using American financial institutions to facilitate trade with Iran.
“Part of the bill would prohibit Boeing and other U.S. companies from using the government-supported Export-Import Bank to facilitate trade with Iran. … The proposed legislation would take current export restrictions further by prohibiting private banks from lending money for planes headed to Iran.”
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Post by stealthmanbob on Nov 19, 2016 17:39:37 GMT 1
Qantas had 16 B747-2s in my 1978 JP Airline book and I had seen them all !
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Post by someone on Jan 11, 2017 10:29:30 GMT 1
More info about the Iran A330s.
8 A330-200 and 28 A330-900 ordered directly from Airbus. In addition Airbus has bought back 2 A330-200 (from Synergy/Avianca Brazil) that will be delivered to Iran. So total 10 A330-200
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