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Post by addasih on Feb 6, 2019 18:06:52 GMT 1
I agree
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Post by ff on Feb 6, 2019 18:57:34 GMT 1
I felt like we should stick with the 5th roll out date if there’s no concrete evidence to support MSN 234 rolled out earlier than that? 5th wae the first date she’s online. Personally, first flight date is very important, because it often been used to calculate the age of a frame. And contractually delivery date is also very important, because that's where all financial indicator starts and a frame officially been handed over to a commercial/financial owner.
Rest of the dates, like loading date on FAL, roll out date (different people has different definition for it anyway) and delivery flight date are really not that important, they don't carry the same significance as the two above. One day in or out, not much difference. And there is no official reference point to check roll out date anyway.
No offence to anyone, just stating my view.
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Post by ca350 on Feb 6, 2019 19:07:16 GMT 1
ff I totally understand your paint. But as a tradition of our forum, we still list roll out date for each of every A350 and A380 frame. Given that we decided to list this date, we should make it as accurate.
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Post by fanairbus on Feb 6, 2019 19:10:38 GMT 1
That sounds sensible and if it allows contributors' work to be decreased a little while still archiving important aspects of frame development that's surely good - unless anyone wishes to devote time to completeness but the Pareto Principle will apply in getting all the data correctly (or to a point when others question it!).
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Post by ff on Feb 6, 2019 19:17:49 GMT 1
ff I totally understand your paint. But as a tradition of our forum, we still list roll out date for each of every A350 and A380 frame. Given that we decided to list this date, we should make it as accurate. I completely understand your point that it is for data completeness, and appreciate everyone contribute towards that. All I was saying was that perhaps it could save you some time not to spend too much effort on these not so important dates for each frame. I did say no offence to anyone, don’t want to be rude, just want to save you guys some valuable time.
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Post by philidor on Feb 7, 2019 0:36:08 GMT 1
Rest of the dates, like loading date on FAL, roll out date (different people has different definition for it anyway) and delivery flight date are really not that important, they don't carry the same significance as the two above. One day in or out, not much difference. And there is no official reference point to check roll out date anyway. Entry into FAL (start of assembly) and roll-out (end of assembly, beginning of the test phase) are important and helpful industrial milestones allowing us (as well as the manufacturer !) to assess the assembly and testing progress. It doesn't matter much, in my opinion, if we don't get exact dates, as long as we are close enough. Likewise, discussions about the definition of roll-out are pointless : strictly speaking, a frame is 'rolled-out' several times (every time it is moved from a station to the next one, or to a hangar), but what matters to us is the final roll-out, signaling transition to the test phase.
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Post by ca350 on Feb 11, 2019 20:57:38 GMT 1
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Post by backstroke on Feb 13, 2019 10:13:40 GMT 1
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Post by savoyard74 on Feb 13, 2019 18:26:48 GMT 1
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Post by addasih on Feb 14, 2019 18:51:49 GMT 1
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