yumi
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Post by yumi on Dec 20, 2018 14:14:57 GMT 1
Why does Air China frames divert to TSN? (sorry if this was been asked before) You have it 3 post above yours. The reason is for a charity flight. Sorry didn't read it carefully, Thanks
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Post by shpeex on Dec 20, 2018 14:51:42 GMT 1
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Post by ff on Dec 20, 2018 17:03:28 GMT 1
Why does Air China frames divert to TSN? (sorry if this was been asked before) You have it 3 post above yours. The reason is for a charity flight. No no no, charity flight is not the main reason.
Both TSN and the Port of Tianjin (4th in the world by throughput tonnage and 9th in container throughput), are within the Tianjin Binghai Free Trade Zoon. I've been there many times myself.
If the aircraft been "imported" to China through TSN, you could pay millions less in Chinese tax. That's why almost all lease companies, and those frames financed through banks (contrast to borrow a loan then purchase alright by airlines) are always go through TSN. This is getting very popular in China indeed.
CA don't normally do that because as the flag carrier they tend not to avoid tax, but in this case I guess the bank insist that, so they've added a charity flight on top.
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Post by backstroke on Dec 20, 2018 17:25:40 GMT 1
You have it 3 post above yours. The reason is for a charity flight. No no no, charity flight is not the main reason.
Both TSN and the Port of Tianjin (4th in the world by throughput tonnage and 9th in container throughput), are within the Tianjin Binghai Free Trade Zoon. I've been there many times myself.
If the aircraft been "imported" to China through TSN, you could pay millions less in Chinese tax. That's why almost all lease companies, and those frames financed through banks (contrast to borrow a loan then purchase alright by airlines) are always go through TSN. This is getting very popular in China indeed.
CA don't normally do that because as the flag carrier they tend not to avoid tax, but in this case I guess the bank insist that, so they've added a charity flight on top. Wow, thank you for that detailed explanation
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Post by peter on Dec 20, 2018 17:37:24 GMT 1
No no no, charity flight is not the main reason. If the aircraft been "imported" to China through TSN, you could pay millions less in Chinese tax. That's why almost all lease companies, and those frames financed through banks (contrast to borrow a loan then purchase alright by airlines) are always go through TSN. This is getting very popular in China indeed.
For a number of years the route Boeing Field - Honolulu - Guam - Tianjin has been extremely popular. Especially with brand-spanking-new Boeing 737's
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Post by ff on Dec 20, 2018 17:51:04 GMT 1
No no no, charity flight is not the main reason. If the aircraft been "imported" to China through TSN, you could pay millions less in Chinese tax. That's why almost all lease companies, and those frames financed through banks (contrast to borrow a loan then purchase alright by airlines) are always go through TSN. This is getting very popular in China indeed.
For a number of years the route Boeing Field - Honolulu - Guam - Tianjin has been extremely popular. Especially with brand-spanking-new Boeing 737's True, soon that popular route will change to Boeing Field - Honolulu - Guam - Zhoushan, because the new Boeing 737 Completion Centre has just handed over the first B737 to a Chinese airline. Most of B737s will be finished in HSN in the future.
BTW, Zhoushan is also within a newly established Free Trade Zoon. And it's coincident that Airbus in Tianjin is TSN and Boeing in Zhoushan is HSN, only one letter difference.
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Post by savoyard74 on Dec 20, 2018 19:08:29 GMT 1
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Post by ca350 on Dec 20, 2018 19:41:08 GMT 1
CA don't normally do that because as the flag carrier they tend not to avoid tax, but in this case I guess the bank insist that, so they've added a charity flight on top. Not true. Every single one of the CA A350s clear custom at TSN with the only exception being CA #1, MSN 178, which was the first ever A350 delivered to a Chinese Airlines, thus directly ferried to PEK from France for their special ceremony. This is a common practice among Chinese Airlines - first frame in the fleet usually gets ferried to their home base for a special ceremony. Same for China Eastern, MU#1 ferried TLS-SHA with the ensuing ones clearing custom at TSN (most recently MSN 261 MU#2). Also CA A321neo deliveries flew to TSN as well. Never heard about CA trying not to avoid import tax.
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Post by peter on Dec 20, 2018 19:54:06 GMT 1
This is going off-topic but: Air China only began to take Boeing deliveries through Tianjin this year. Before only one or two a year, the rest direct Beijing, sometimes Chongqing or Dalian.
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Post by ff on Dec 20, 2018 19:58:18 GMT 1
I could be wrong, I don’t watch deliveries all the time, I really don’t have the time. But I believe CA’s Boeing fleet do not go vis TSN. They normally go straight to PEK or Chengdu, A350 deliveries might be a new practice for CA. Am I right?
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