philidor
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Post by philidor on Feb 1, 2019 8:52:48 GMT 1
Wrong thread ?? Wrong link ?? I think gdumas posted that information here because Reuters is saying that EK might take A350s instead of A380s.
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Post by Jkkw on Feb 1, 2019 9:21:41 GMT 1
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Post by marlibu on Feb 1, 2019 17:42:16 GMT 1
which slots will they receive.. and who's frame. were there any undisclosed A350 orders?
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kronus
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Post by kronus on Feb 3, 2019 19:04:36 GMT 1
Nearly confirmation of order: Maybe there will be: msn 2 (delivery in 2019), msn 3 (delivery in 2023) and msn 4 (delivery in 2021).
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Post by marlibu on Feb 4, 2019 2:46:58 GMT 1
MSN will be stored at a museum. I thought the same for the 2 test frames. still can not explain the 3rd..
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Post by ghorn on Feb 5, 2019 19:56:36 GMT 1
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Baroque
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Post by Baroque on Feb 5, 2019 23:08:33 GMT 1
That would be a 30% increase in production rate. If this is about reducing production costs and gaining efficiencies of scale, perhaps a good move. But I'm not sure if Airbus is really stressed for slots on the A350 as Boeing was with the 787. They also have some likely cancellations coming up and maybe have more room to shuffle positions about. The A330neo has also taken off some of the pressure.
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Post by kevin5345179 on Feb 5, 2019 23:14:41 GMT 1
That would be a 30% increase in production rate. If this is about reducing production costs and gaining efficiencies of scale, perhaps a good move. But I'm not sure if Airbus is really stressed for slots on the A350 as Boeing was with the 787. They also have some likely cancellations coming up and maybe have more room to shuffle positions about. The A330neo has also taken off some of the pressure. I'm actually curious whether 787 can keep up the production rate as the rate they burn off backlog is pretty fast and the order just can't keep up
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Baroque
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Post by Baroque on Feb 5, 2019 23:49:48 GMT 1
I'm actually curious whether 787 can keep up the production rate as the rate they burn off backlog is pretty fast and the order just can't keep up Had a look at the 787 backlog and you're right. Present backlog goes out to about 4.5 years, but we know that much of those are likely spread out over a longer term. There has been some implication that going rate 14 may be more about trying to burn down the deferred production cost faster than worrying about the backlog. The accounting block was raised to 1500 and means that it won't be till about 2025 that they finally make it zero. Not going 14 would have made that even longer! Airbus is said to be targeting production B/E with the A350 this year. I don't think they are pressed for such a fix too, at least not at a similar magnitude.
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Post by stealthmanbob on Feb 6, 2019 0:01:48 GMT 1
I'm actually curious whether 787 can keep up the production rate as the rate they burn off backlog is pretty fast and the order just can't keep up Had a look at the 787 backlog and you're right. Present backlog goes out to about 4.5 years, but we know that much of those are likely spread out over a longer term. There has been some implication that going rate 14 may be more about trying to burn down the deferred production cost faster than worrying about the backlog. The accounting block was raised to 1500 and means that it won't be till about 2025 that they finally make it zero. Not going 14 would have made that even longer! Airbus is said to be targeting production B/E with the A350 this year. I don't think they are pressed for such a fix too, at least not at a similar magnitude. Possibly need to move these posts to the B787 production thread ? My opinion is Boeing should drop the 787 rate back down to 12 a month now !
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