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Post by FabienA380 on Mar 21, 2019 21:58:08 GMT 1
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Post by Baroque on Mar 21, 2019 22:26:33 GMT 1
I don't quite see the story like that, to me both Boeing and FAA and finished, they will be disbanded both. FAA under criminal investigation will be cancelled and a new one will be formed, probably would be a 'behind the scene' authority acting behind EASA. Boeing won't recover from the huge financial penalties they will owe to both families of victims and all the operating airlines. Fixed or not the MAX is dead too, airlines and passengers won't be eager to operate and fly with it, I see airlines cancelling the remaining orders. Embraer will do everything they can to dissociate from Boeing, Boeing will be disbanded and a new manufacturer will take place at a smaller scale. Both MAX and 777X will be cancelled, USAF will cancel their order do and ask Boeing (well-justified-)financial compensations too. That's how I see it. That's a whole lot of sarcasm there, Fabien. That's what I see!
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Post by stealthmanbob on Mar 22, 2019 0:14:43 GMT 1
I don't quite see the story like that, to me both Boeing and FAA and finished, they will be disbanded both. FAA under criminal investigation will be cancelled and a new one will be formed, probably would be a 'behind the scene' authority acting behind EASA. Boeing won't recover from the huge financial penalties they will owe to both families of victims and all the operating airlines. Fixed or not the MAX is dead too, airlines and passengers won't be eager to operate and fly with it, I see airlines cancelling the remaining orders. Embraer will do everything they can to dissociate from Boeing, Boeing will be disbanded and a new manufacturer will take place at a smaller scale. Both MAX and 777X will be cancelled, USAF will cancel their order do and ask Boeing (well-justified-)financial compensations too. That's how I see it. Has your account been hacked FabienA380 by Airbus or the Russians 🤔
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Post by mtrunz on Mar 22, 2019 1:30:26 GMT 1
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Post by mjoelnir on Mar 22, 2019 9:03:09 GMT 1
It will perhaps not be quite as bad as Fabien says(jokes?). I think quite a few are way to optimistic about how Boeing will weather this storm. People may talk about the fantastic 787, but the 737 is the normal daily cash cow at Boeing. It is a huge difference to the 787 grounding. Positive cash flow at Boeing will go into full stop. We will see airlines canceling 737MAX. That is not only bad production and backlog wise, but prepayments and progress payments are a huge part of the cash flow. Boeing has quite some cash to burn, but while burning cash Boeing will see the investor confidence shrink. Boeing has no reserves in the form of equity, as they have bought back a lot shares to a high price and they are hardly nice to sell when the stock price goes down. Boeing will survive, but I imagine has to look deeply into how they do their business and their safety culture. Think about that Boeing is in the moment pushing reduction of quality control, while having FOD trouble on the tankers.
Regarding the FAA, perhaps it is needed to split that agency into safety and industry promotion, two aims that are not fully compatible.
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Post by addasih on Mar 22, 2019 23:08:49 GMT 1
No parking space in Renton? Bunch of MAX are being ferried to Paine Field
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Post by addasih on Mar 23, 2019 14:03:37 GMT 1
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Post by philidor on Mar 23, 2019 14:16:23 GMT 1
Oh ! I thought existing MAX simulators - at least those provided to customers like ET - couldn't be used to train pilots to react to MCAS activation (see the specific ET accident thread). Are we now about to learn that MCAS-training-capable simulators existed and were not supplied ?
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Post by kevin5345179 on Mar 24, 2019 7:22:14 GMT 1
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Post by FabienA380 on Mar 24, 2019 8:22:30 GMT 1
Excellent, that's just another one. Let's see who follows.
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