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Post by FabienA380 on Oct 17, 2013 11:19:02 GMT 1
All frames now seem to have a time of 3 weeks between arrival at TLS and end-of Body Join, except for MSN137 but that was a HoV-QR1. Though, the latest HoV-OZ1 has had now also 3 weeks for that stage! (qualitycontrol+Body Join). Good job, Airbus! Fabien
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mjoelnir
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Post by mjoelnir on Dec 11, 2013 0:15:11 GMT 1
Is Body Join now the bottleneck?
It seems that we have seldom more than 5 frames in 6 FAL places, MSN 156, 155, 154, 153, 130 in the moment, MSN 117, 145, 151, 152 are on the flight line, MSN 157 in body join and MSN 158 waiting.
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Post by FabienA380 on Dec 11, 2013 4:27:32 GMT 1
Might be, I think though the whole XFW is still the biggest bottleneck... Fabien
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Post by mjoelnir on Dec 11, 2013 8:44:36 GMT 1
Might be, I think though the whole XFW is still the biggest bottleneck... Fabien There are of course a few things we do not know, but with the deliveries the last month, we see more frames being delivered than coming by convoy and that has not been for quite some time. We do not know if the frames on the flight line in Toulouse are just waiting for a slot in Finki or are still being worked on, but we do not have frames waiting in XFW for a outfitting bay as it is. We have a frame waiting for the body join and when that frame goes into BJ the next frame will have arrived.
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Post by addasih on Dec 11, 2013 16:20:07 GMT 1
I think the waiting for Body Join after the frame arrived by the convoy was always there. Mainly this time is used as QC to check the arrived frame up to the standard and no damages before entering the body join. So I won't say this is the cause of the bottleneck
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Post by philidor on Dec 12, 2013 1:11:59 GMT 1
Fitting out has long been an obvious production bottleneck, but seems to have improved.
Last year, the wing crack issue forced Airbus to close the British wing factory to implement a new process and start production of the new wing. As a consequence, in early 2013 the TLS factory was understocked, constraining production (25 deliveries in 2013 vs 30 in 2012).
In the future, A380 deliveries might for the first time be paced by customer demand, not production capacity. Airbus could produce A380s at an average pace of three frames per month, but present demand does not warrant such a pace increase. New orders (especially Doric's expected one) might however quickly open new prospects.
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Post by mjoelnir on Dec 13, 2013 1:07:06 GMT 1
Might be, I think though the whole XFW is still the biggest bottleneck... Fabien I was looking at something else, the bulk of the wing repair before delivery seems to have been done in XFW, so that could be a good reason XFW looked crowded this year. In the first years, as XFW looked the slowest, there had to be done more work regarding fixing faults coming with the frames from Toulouse, there seems to be few problems regarding that today.
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Post by FabienA380 on Feb 16, 2014 2:57:47 GMT 1
It seems to me that things are going very smoothly in fact with Body Join, all last frames that I could track with the Body Join time, stand at exactly 3 weeks between convoy-arrival and switch to FALstage1. (these are MSN146 MSN147 MSN148 MSN149 MSN151 MSN152 MSN153 and MSN161, including 2 HoVs). Also it seems that MSN162-BC1 is going smoothly and steadily in FAL with a BodyJoin+FALstage1 time of 8 weeks, this is a smooth average time for other frames as well, though added of 2 weeks of End-of-Year celebrations. Fabien
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philidor
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Post by philidor on Feb 16, 2014 10:43:21 GMT 1
Yes, I think production has improved a lot, it's only tepid demand now preventing a rate increase.
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Post by XWB on Feb 16, 2014 18:03:30 GMT 1
Agreed.
It seems we will have a new record production time for some HoV's (OZ, BC and maybe EY too).
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