Baroque
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Post by Baroque on Sept 10, 2013 16:59:24 GMT 1
Just to ask...why has it been a problem for Airbus in placing this frame with existing operators like Emirates? IIRC, they're already operating one of the test frames.
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harty236
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Post by harty236 on Sept 10, 2013 17:02:32 GMT 1
Just to ask...why has it been a problem for Airbus in placing this frame with existing operators like Emirates? IIRC, they're already operating one of the test frames. I think it's more that Emirates wouldn't want such a frame. I reckon they will end up selling at a discount to a "less premium" airline, like with Boeing's terrible teens.
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Baroque
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Post by Baroque on Sept 10, 2013 17:07:08 GMT 1
I think it's more that Emirates wouldn't want such a frame. I reckon they will end up selling at a discount to a "less premium" airline, like with Boeing's terrible teens. Why not? Like MSN002, MSN007 was also part of Airbus's test fleet and it was refurbished, reconfigured and shipped to Emirates.
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philidor
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Post by philidor on Sept 10, 2013 17:08:36 GMT 1
Just to ask...why has it been a problem for Airbus in placing this frame with existing operators like Emirates? IIRC, they're already operating one of the test frames. I think it's more that Emirates wouldn't want such a frame. I reckon they will end up selling at a discount to a "less premium" airline, like with Boeing's terrible teens. I suppose that this aircraft, being the second-built A380, is very heavy. This may make it unsuitable for airline operations, whereas the drawback is less important to private owners, who fly fewer hours every year.
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harty236
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Post by harty236 on Sept 10, 2013 17:15:42 GMT 1
I think it's more that Emirates wouldn't want such a frame. I reckon they will end up selling at a discount to a "less premium" airline, like with Boeing's terrible teens. Why not? Like MSN002, MSN007 was also part of Airbus's test fleet and it was refurbished, reconfigured and shipped to Emirates. Emirates already has enough delivery slots for the frames it wants to take. They are not in such a rush to take frames that it would make economic sense to take an overweight, reconditioned frame. A low cost carrier could however easily negotiate a deep discount on the frame as it's just sitting around gathering dust and Airbus doesn't know what to do with it.
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Post by addasih on Sept 10, 2013 17:30:30 GMT 1
Guys don't forget the current owner (as rumored Saudi Government/King who bought from Prince Al-Walid) didn't cancel the order yet. Airbus can't sell it unless the current owner cancel it.
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XWB
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Post by XWB on Sept 10, 2013 17:37:21 GMT 1
Indeed. Perhaps it's just in storage until an outfit spot becomes available. There usually is a long queue for VIP planes.
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philidor
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Post by philidor on Sept 10, 2013 17:53:58 GMT 1
Indeed, we know very little about the present situation of this frame.
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Post by julytourist on Dec 5, 2013 14:33:21 GMT 1
Any more news on MSN2? At the start of this thread it is noted that there was a second roll out for Prince Alwaleed and a subsequent test flight (though the date given does not match). It looks as if the plane was prepared as per the sales agreement (link available on original Forbes article quoted on page 2) with RR engines presumably for the sale, and resale to the Saudis in 2012. However the VIP fit out has not been done, either to the wacky design featured in the Mail or a more sober version featured on Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcK51B7-B7w) though the latter is described as 'for delivery to a Saudi Prince in 2015'. Possibly concerns over King Abdullah's health and uncertainty as to the succession has led to a lack of decision as to the plane and hence its continued storage at Tlse.
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Post by FabienA380 on Mar 13, 2014 2:12:59 GMT 1
I was told by the (charmante) guide today that MSN002 was now property of Airbus, as Prince Al-Waleed had denied buying it, and the rumored resell by someone else didn't end anywhere, so it is now just back at Airbus in storage. Fabien
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