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Post by FabienA380 on Jun 7, 2013 3:32:49 GMT 1
I did not find the right thread so i started a new one. (please feel free to move or merge) Australian Business Taveler has an article that cought my attention: Airbus supersizes the A380 superjumboThe topic is about how to minimize the cost per seat. But see yourself.... I think the article is different from the original mean of the thread ( here another one), those articles report Airbus wanting to reorganise the floor/configuration of the current A380s, not speaking about any stretch yet?... Fabien
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Post by Baroque on Jun 7, 2013 3:53:28 GMT 1
I think the article is different from the original mean of the thread ( here another one), those articles report Airbus wanting to reorganise the floor/configuration of the current A380s, not speaking about any stretch yet?...Fabien Correct, but it still fits this thread title as it is a future development. We can use this common thread to discuss all future possibilities on the A380 such as this one, stretches, re-engines, freighters and more.
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Post by Baroque on Jun 7, 2013 4:53:54 GMT 1
Which lengths would you define as A380-900? Currently, the rumours swirl around two possible lengths for the -900. One at just under 80m and the other at 85m. (I'm hunting for a particular Airbus source that I remember implying either was possible. I'll keep looking.) As long as the -800 has several years of production in backlog, a stretch might cannibalise that backlog. From that point of view, launching the -900 now would be premature. On the other hand, the group's financial situation has begun to improve, but not enough to allow more big investments. Let's wait for a couple of years ... This is true. I think the best time to launch the -900 would be when airlines start turning over their older -800s. So we could be looking at an EIS of 2020+. There's plenty of time for that and the last major scheduled development is the -1000 or the -800 depending on which one of them is assigned the 2017 EIS. Didn't Emirates say earlier this year they were considering dropping First Class for more capacity on aircraft to be delivered from 2017? I don't think Emirates meant for existing frames to be reconfigured. It's just a reiteration that some of their deliveries will not feature first class and will instead have higher number of seats for use on routes that do not require first class. The 644 seat 2 class layout was always on the cards and it's nothing new. Here's an article dated June 2007 talking about it (I know it's quite an unusual source, "space.com", but it's what it says). - The airline will operate these A380s within the Middle East on high-traffic routes such as Dubai-Jeddah and on routes to the Indian subcontinent, said Page. They won't operate on flights lasting much longer than 3 hours. - Most of Emirates' A380s are likely to feature far fewer seats than the 644-passenger aircraft it will use on shorter, high-density routes. - The other two configurations it talks about are the standard LH and ULH configurations we are accustomed to.
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Post by Baroque on Jun 7, 2013 5:28:08 GMT 1
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Post by HL7615 on Jun 7, 2013 6:37:57 GMT 1
I did not find the right thread so i started a new one. (please feel free to move or merge) Australian Business Taveler has an article that cought my attention: Airbus supersizes the A380 superjumboThe topic is about how to minimize the cost per seat. But see yourself.... I think the article is different from the original mean of the thread ( here another one), those articles report Airbus wanting to reorganise the floor/configuration of the current A380s, not speaking about any stretch yet?... Fabien said article also mentioned this below: Oh Hell no!!!
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Post by danteg on Jun 7, 2013 8:25:34 GMT 1
I agree with merging the two topics.
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Post by chornedsnorkack on Jun 7, 2013 8:26:07 GMT 1
Which lengths would you define as A380-900? Currently, the rumours swirl around two possible lengths for the -900. One at just under 80m and the other at 85m. Would it be useful to call an A380 stretched past 80 m an A380-1000, unless and until Airbus officially gives a different designation?
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Post by XWB on Jun 7, 2013 8:52:02 GMT 1
11-abreast should give you 17.4" seats and 17" aisles, I believe that's about the same as in an 10-abreast 777.
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Post by chornedsnorkack on Jun 7, 2013 9:08:50 GMT 1
From A380 description: www.airbus.com/fileadmin/media_gallery/files/tech_data/AC/Airbus-AC_A380_20121101.pdfsection 2-5-1, page 3 of that section. The width of main deck tourist class 10 abreast is given as 2 3 seat blocks, 62´´ each 2 2 seat blocks, 42´´ each 2 aisles, 20´´ each total 248´´ The width of main deck first class 6 abreast is given as 3 2 seat blocks, 57´´ each 2 aisles, 38´´ each total 247´´ Is it a plausible conclusion that the usable width of A380 main deck, on seat level, is about 248´´?
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Post by XWB on Jun 7, 2013 10:06:15 GMT 1
I think the article is different from the original mean of the thread ( here another one), those articles report Airbus wanting to reorganise the floor/configuration of the current A380s, not speaking about any stretch yet?...Fabien Correct, but it still fits this thread title as it is a future development. We can use this common thread to discuss all future possibilities on the A380 such as this one, stretches, re-engines, freighters and more. I agree. The thing is, everything beyond 80 meters will open new challenges. Think about airport restrictions (a new code standard) and I don't know if the FAL is capable of holding such large fuselage sections. I wonder if it's worth it. And more important: the 777X. If the 777X threatens the economics of the A380 (and I'm sure it will) Airbus will have to improve the A380 around the end of the decade.
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