philidor
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Post by philidor on Apr 27, 2016 9:53:37 GMT 1
Well, FabienA380 didn't put a smiley in his post, but I still suspect he wasn't entirely serious with the 25 deliveries... Of course, only Fabien could answer, but I guess he was quite serious, he has been very pessimistic about 2016 A350 production for a while.
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Post by FabienA380 on Apr 28, 2016 4:05:21 GMT 1
Well I am serious and sorry for not staying too optimistic, what have we seen for deliveries for now?..
2015 Jan 0 Feb 0 Mar 1 Apr 0 May 1 Jun 2 Jul 0 Aug 0 Sep 1 Oct 4 Nov 1 Dec 4
2016 Jan 0 Feb 0 Mar 4 Apr 1
I know about a planned ramp up, I know about the current pace of production feed, though looking at the above numbers and the pace of deliveries as it is, ....how many can be reached this year?.....
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s543
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Post by s543 on Apr 28, 2016 8:20:36 GMT 1
Looking at the table pessimism is obvious but we know how many frames are being worked on. The rework seems to minimize i.e. the loooong delay as commented before is getting not so long and or might become even short.... - so all those frames entering TLS must get out in some moment.
Once more in the past what was said by Bregier later became reality with good precision. If he believes in "at least 50" so do I. We are speaking of not so long a time (9 month) and such a conglomerate as AB is planing for much longer time into the future. Of course there are outside influences, problems with suppliers etc, but I still do believe he knows what he is speaking about.
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XWB
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Post by XWB on Apr 28, 2016 9:16:50 GMT 1
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mjoelnir
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Post by mjoelnir on Apr 28, 2016 9:51:12 GMT 1
Well I am serious and sorry for not staying too optimistic, what have we seen for deliveries for now?.. 2015 Jan 0 Feb 0 Mar 1 Apr 0 May 1 Jun 2 Jul 0 Aug 0 Sep 1 Oct 4 Nov 1 Dec 4 2016 Jan 0 Feb 0 Mar 4 Apr 1 I know about a planned ramp up, I know about the current pace of production feed, though looking at the above numbers and the pace of deliveries as it is, ....how many can be reached this year?..... 1 in February 2016. 3 in March 2016 and we have still April and what does it matter if further frames move to May. There are 6 frames having done their first flight and 2 waiting for the first flight. 2016 Jan 0 Feb 1 Mar 3 Apr 1
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sciing
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Post by sciing on Apr 28, 2016 20:56:16 GMT 1
Sorry, I must really miss the point why you can use up to date delivery count to extrapolate the year. As loading and production time are not stable you must not use it. So I wonder why we start the disscussion a 2nd?
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Post by stealthmanbob on Apr 28, 2016 23:27:05 GMT 1
Sorry, I must really miss the point why you can use up to date delivery count to extrapolate the year. As loading and production time are not stable you must not use it. So I wonder why we start the disscussion a 2nd? You need to quote what has been delivered already this year to try and guess / extrapolate the rest of the years deliveries ? If we get two more this month, then 4 in May and 5 in June, then 6 a month from July thru Dec we get to about 51 ? I still hope for 52 though
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Post by FabienA380 on Apr 28, 2016 23:52:59 GMT 1
There's been nowhere close to a steady 6 at any point since deliveries started, how would you like to have a steady 6 per month including summer break?............................
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Post by stealthmanbob on Apr 29, 2016 0:01:52 GMT 1
There's been nowhere close to a steady 6 at any point since deliveries started, how would you like to have a steady 6 per month including summer break?............................ There is a back log of finished frames, only interiors are the problem, they will start flying out soon. May be summer break is cancelled for staff doing fitting out, clear the back log !
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mjoelnir
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Post by mjoelnir on Apr 29, 2016 8:53:59 GMT 1
There's been nowhere close to a steady 6 at any point since deliveries started, how would you like to have a steady 6 per month including summer break?............................ Every week a frame goes into the FAL, one day some have to be finished. 41 are somewhere in the process + 2 with parts arriving in 59. Of them 2 have had a CAF, 4 more have had FF and 2 are rolled out waiting for FF. It seems that no technical problem stop delivery, but late arrival of seats and toilets, why so pessimistic?
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