s543
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Post by s543 on May 24, 2016 7:17:36 GMT 1
Well, if an aircraft is retired from service, she may be stored, or parted out or destroyed. In the former case, she may be returned to some kind of service at any time, if her owner changes his mind or if she has a new owner. So, these are volatile data. Well if we would consider stored plane as retired and consider all the planes that were stored temporarily in the period of 15 years we would be in the range of 10th of thousands for both OEMs  I do believe here we were discussing planes retired "for good"  |
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Post by someone on May 24, 2016 8:05:19 GMT 1
Norwegian has firmed 8 options for the 737-8max, bringing their total orders to 108
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Post by peter on May 24, 2016 12:55:27 GMT 1
Off-topic here, I know, but presents a nice fact: msn 1164 was delivered in 2000. I just hope they didn't retire that one first  |
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Post by philidor on May 24, 2016 23:19:46 GMT 1
Well if we would consider stored plane as retired and consider all the planes that were stored temporarily in the period of 15 years we would be in the range of 10th of thousands for both OEMs I do believe here we were discussing planes retired "for good" There is nothing like storing aircraft 'for good'. If the owner knew the aircraft would not be used again, he would sell her or in the worst case give her to a scrapper, to save costs. Storing an aircraft, whether in a hangar or in a desert, is a temporary measure. The decision can be reversed any day, which is why the owner accepts to pay associated costs, sometimes for years. Whether the aircraft is sold or not, she eventually is either returned to some kind of service, or parted out. The former case is increasingly unlikely over time, as the cost of doing so increases, but we have seen aircraft unexpectedly returned to service after sitting for years. |
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Post by s543 on May 25, 2016 6:54:11 GMT 1
Philidor true for sure. But... there is literary thousands of frames stored for long time but let's say there is over 250 stored 737-500 how many of those will get ever to the air ? The number of those is not zero I do agree but for our purpose is close to zero for sure. Or if somebody stores A320-211 MSNxx or MSN1xx or so the probability of it returning to service is once more close to zero. So most probably it is only waiting for being scraped.
If there is stored A320 MSN4xxx it is for sure going back to service sooner or later. So that is the difference.
airinsight said "retired"
So in my understanding the mentioned 737-500 are retired, the A320 MSNxx is retired but the MSN4xxx is NOT.
The point was that there is not 1200 retired A320 and there is not 270 retired 737 - it is other way round - there is something close to 300 A320s retired and well over 1200 B737 retired.
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Post by addasih on Jun 15, 2016 21:45:22 GMT 1
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Post by Jkkw on Jun 16, 2016 16:06:52 GMT 1
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Post by someone on Jun 21, 2016 8:02:34 GMT 1
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Post by addasih on Jun 21, 2016 15:24:51 GMT 1
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