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Post by pa380scal on Mar 4, 2018 21:26:26 GMT 1
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Post by someone on Mar 5, 2018 12:30:33 GMT 1
Assume it then only will spend a short time at XFW and aircraft, with engines, usually aren’t stored there |
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Post by kevin5345179 on Mar 5, 2018 22:48:43 GMT 1
refurbish to VA starting this summer
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Post by marlibu on Mar 5, 2018 23:24:53 GMT 1
what is involved in the refurbishment.. will the entire airplane be gutted and replaced with new? MSN5 took quite a long time.
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Post by ff on Mar 6, 2018 9:58:34 GMT 1
It will be another ultra low rate lease for ten years, we've seen VS done similar deals with Airbus in the past, with A343 prototype MNS002&003, and A346 prototype MSN371&376.
Surprise that they didn't take both MSN65&71 this time, perhaps the current plan of taking 4 A35X in 2019, 5 in 2020 and 4 in 2021 is fast enough for replacing LGW 744 fleet and LHR 346 fleet.
And there is one more optional lease with ALC to take one more A35X in 2022, plus by then VS probably need to decide replacement for the A333 fleet.
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Post by mjoelnir on Mar 6, 2018 10:24:28 GMT 1
It will be another ultra low rate lease for ten years, we've seen VS done similar deals with Airbus in the past, with A343 prototype MNS002&003, and A346 prototype MSN371&376. Surprise that they didn't take both MSN65&71 this time, perhaps the current plan of taking 4 A35X in 2019, 5 in 2020 and 4 in 2021 is fast enough for replacing LGW 744 fleet and LHR 346 fleet. And there is one more optional lease with ALC to take one more A35X in 2022, plus by then VS probably need to decide replacement for the A333 fleet. Replacing the A330 can hardly be a big priority, average age A330-300 is 6.4 years and for the two A330-200 16.6 years. |
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Post by philidor on Mar 6, 2018 10:45:09 GMT 1
what is involved in the refurbishment.. will the entire airplane be gutted and replaced with new? MSN5 took quite a long time. I can try to answer, but I am sure there is more than what I can think of. Airbus has to remove any test instrumentation from the aircraft. This is much more work than one might expect, since there is a lot of equipment and wiring to remove, and probably some special openings to close. Then, the aircraft must be checked for compliance with certification standards (they may have some non-compliant parts that date back to the beginning of the test campaign). All together, this means quite a lot of non-standard rework, which still falls short of bringing the aircraft fully on par with a new-built one. Then, of course, Airbus has to fit the aircraft out to the buyer's specifications and to paint them. |
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Post by ff on Mar 6, 2018 11:05:04 GMT 1
The four A332 are emergency measure to cover B787 engine problem, not part of the fleet planning. They will only be here for 2-3 years. First one started fly for VS last week, second one start yesterday.
The A333s are suppose to be a 10 year arrangement, by 2022 the average age will be over 10 years.
Please don’t make such comment just by looking at one or two webpages, fleet age doesn’t tell you everything. Fleet long term planning and emergency measure are completed two different things.
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Post by Jkkw on Mar 19, 2018 12:19:06 GMT 1
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Post by FabienA380 on Sept 2, 2018 15:28:12 GMT 1
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