mfranjic
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Post by mfranjic on May 22, 2016 11:36:44 GMT 1
Thank you for the table, Mario ! You are welcome, philidor... These are  A380s delivered in 2016...  The A380 aircraft was certified, so far, with these engine types:  The fact that the most of the A380 aircrafts lately delivered to the Emirates were in a 2-class, C58 Y557, configuration made me thinking how would EK´s A380 look like in a single-class configuration. How probable that cabin configuration in the near future is and would it make sense on some of the EK´s routes, I have no idea, but how would it look like, I have tried to visualize to myself with some modifications I made to the existing drawing of EK´s standard A380 2-class cabin configuration. The main deck I haven´t changed since it comprises just the economy-class seats, 437 of them, and on the upper deck, I removed 58 business-class seats and replaced them with those of the economy-class, 152 of them. The end result was 437 Y-class seats on the main deck plus 272 Y-class seats on the upper deck. Altogether, 709 economy-class seats in a single-class configuration. It certainly is a very large number of people, but I don´t find this cabin would be crowded at all ... * Emirates´ Airbus A380 in a 2-class - C58 Y557 configuration  ** Emirates´ Airbus A380 in a single-class - Y709 configuration  Nice regards Mario |
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philidor
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Post by philidor on May 22, 2016 18:08:06 GMT 1
That would be a record-breaking 709 seats aircraft ! We'll certainly see this kind of configuration some day, though I would not expect it from EK, they have too much premium traffic. Air Austral intended even more seats in its now cancelled A380s, Transaero intended less than 700, if I remember correctly.
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XWB
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Post by XWB on May 23, 2016 8:12:32 GMT 1
However, at 709 seats there would be (almost) no room left for cargo.
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mfranjic
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Post by mfranjic on May 23, 2016 10:57:43 GMT 1
However, at 709 seats there would be (almost) no room left for cargo. Well, You can only imagine how much space would remain for the cargo in those Air Austral´s A380s, once considered with the cabin configuration Y840. Otherwise, Airbus A380-800 is certified for up to 853 passengers (538 on the main deck and 315 on the upper), achievable with a single-class (Y) configuration. Mario |
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Post by FabienA380 on May 23, 2016 15:52:59 GMT 1
(I've moved the posts into a brand new thread, hope this is ok for you mfranjic  ) |
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Post by chornedsnorkack on May 23, 2016 16:20:36 GMT 1
On the other hand, when Air France has 472 seats on a 777, it still includes 14 business class and 36 premium economy seats.
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s543
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Post by s543 on May 23, 2016 16:28:23 GMT 1
I do not believe they are ready to have single Y class planes. They do have always some "more demanding" customers. There might be routes where there is not many but .....
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mfranjic
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Post by mfranjic on May 23, 2016 19:51:39 GMT 1
(I've moved the posts into a brand new thread, hope this is ok for you mfranjic ) Well.. it is ok.... But You owe me, Fabien! It is not the first time You do this... I have already told You that You have my permission to do whit my posts whatever You think is the best. Nice regards Mario P.S. I'm so curious which MSN, 162 or 167, was transferred to hangar ... |
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Post by mfranjic on May 23, 2016 20:34:23 GMT 1
On the other hand, when Air France has 472 seats on a 777, it still includes 14 business class and 36 premium economy seats. If you are lucky enough to have one of those C-class or W-class seats, it is really nice cabin configuration. On the other hand, if You have on of those Y-class seats, the whole story looks a little bit different... Here is one very similar, Air France´s Boeing 777-300ER´s three-class, C14 W32 Y422, configuration to that You have mentioned ...  The Airbus A380´s main deck´s cabin´s width is 6,58 m and the cabin´s width of the A380´s upper deck is 5,92 m. Seating in 2-4-2 layout on the A380´s upper deck must be pretty comfortable due to the fact that the Airbus A330´s, 5,28 m wide, cabin is already considered to be very pleasant in 2-4-2 layout... Boeing B777-300ER cabin´s width is 5,86 m, so it is not so hard to imagine the cabin that is 0,72 m (28,3 in) narrower compared to that of the A380 main deck´s cabin and with the same, 3-4-3, seating layout. You can also imagine the difference in between 2-4-2 layout on the 5,92 m wide A380´s upper deck´s cabin and 3-4-3 layout on the Boeing 777´s 5,86 m wide cabin... Nice regards Mario |
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Post by XWB on May 23, 2016 21:33:59 GMT 1
However, at 709 seats there would be (almost) no room left for cargo. Well, You can only imagine how much space would remain for the cargo in those Air Austral´s A380s, once considered with the cabin configuration Y840. Otherwise, Airbus A380-800 is certified for up to 853 passengers (538 on the main deck and 315 on the upper), achievable with a single-class (Y) configuration. Mario At 840 seats there would be no room left for cargo. |
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