mjoelnir
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Post by mjoelnir on May 17, 2013 14:33:56 GMT 1
www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/late-delivery-delays-start-of-emirates-a380-wing-repairs-385948/If this article is right then according to Tim Clark: - All A380 delivered 2014 and later are frames with the revised wing structure, that would mean MSN141 and later. - The to Emirates delivered frames are late, could we see accelerated deliveries of EK frames? - All the EK frames including MSN140 with old wings should be delivered this year. - All wing repairs to be finished until November 2014. - Wing repairs in four MROs, I think Dresden will be one.
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XWB
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Post by XWB on May 17, 2013 20:58:06 GMT 1
The repair programme will cover 34 Emirates A380s meaning MSN119 should be the last delivery without the wing fix. So every frame between MSN119 and MSN141 will get their wings fixed before delivery.
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philidor
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Post by philidor on May 17, 2013 22:40:33 GMT 1
The repair programme will cover 34 Emirates A380s meaning MSN119 should be the last delivery without the wing fix. So every frame between MSN119 and MSN141 will get their wings fixed before delivery. I was wondering how to understand that number of 34 frames to receive the fix, when the first EK A380 to be delivered with the new wing should be their 45th. If I get it right, the 34 frames mentioned by TC are those retrofited after delivery, whereas the frames fixed before delivery to EK are not included. In that case, MSN 119 is indeed the last frame that needs fixing after delivery. These comments also clarify the prospects for delivery this year : Airbus can deliver 25 A380s if, and only if, it is fast enough in fixing the wings of these 10 frames ...
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mjoelnir
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Post by mjoelnir on May 18, 2013 1:44:03 GMT 1
What EK frames not yet delivered had already there wings fixed? MSN127 perhaps?
Airbus seems to talk about 6 weeks, can any of that work run concurrent to final assembly and/or outfitting? Are wing repaired in XFW?
I do not know if anybody has answers to above, but it would be nice to know.
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XWB
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Post by XWB on May 18, 2013 10:34:41 GMT 1
That's how I understand it too, the first 34 EK A380s will get their wings fixed after delivery. That's every frame to MSN119.
I agree. Without the wing issue, MSN136, 138, 139 and 140 should be deliverable in November and December. The delivery is now scheduled for January and February 2014, 2 months later. These are our 4 missing frames in the 2013 delivery thread.
MSN127 indeed.
In TLS, they do the repair in a separate hangar leading to a 6 to 8 weeks longer assembly time.
This is the most interesting part: the wings of MSN095 and MSN121 (both BA) are already repaired in XFW and so should the wings of MSN123 if the above theory of "34 frames" is correct. But those frames spent a normal outfitting time in XFW so I believe Airbus can do the wing repair paralleled to the outfit process.
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mjoelnir
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Post by mjoelnir on May 18, 2013 12:32:42 GMT 1
This is the most interesting part: the wings of MSN095 and MSN121 (both BA) are already repaired in XFW and so should the wings of MSN123 if the above theory of "34 frames" is correct. But those frames spent a normal outfitting time in XFW so I believe Airbus can do the wing repair paralleled to the outfit process. If concurrent wing repair is possible, than delivery of MSN136, 138, 139 and 140 should be possible in 2013. It would be strange for Tim Clark to talk about delayed delivery and than not take the frames. And in the article the talk is only frames with the new, no need to repair, wings would be delivered in 2014. Perhaps a reason the going seems so slow in XFW in the moment.
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Post by everton44 on May 18, 2013 22:52:04 GMT 1
I read an article that the Emiates wing repairs had started early this month, six weeks later than planned due to late deliveries. I just did a check on each of their planes, and it looks like they started with A6-EDQ, as all of the other planes are currently flying. A6-EDQ shows it's last fligt was May 8th. Not sure why they didn't start with A6-EDA, but it must have been time for a C check also.
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mjoelnir
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Post by mjoelnir on May 19, 2013 0:06:24 GMT 1
I read an article that the Emiates wing repairs had started early this month, six weeks later than planned due to late deliveries. I just did a check on each of their planes, and it looks like they started with A6-EDQ, as all of the other planes are currently flying. A6-EDQ shows it's last fligt was May 8th. Not sure why they didn't start with A6-EDA, bu it must have been time for a C check also. Perhaps the older frames do have the temporary fix and the younger ones do not. Than it would make sense to start with the oldest without the temporary fix. www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/first-permanent-a380-wing-fix-nearly-complete-383847/This article talks about half of the 100 frames in service would have the temporary fix. A6-EDQ would be MSN 080 EK 17. Perhaps EK 1 to 16 do have the temporary fix and EK 17 to 33 do not.
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Post by addasih on May 19, 2013 1:40:17 GMT 1
I read an article that the Emiates wing repairs had started early this month, six weeks later than planned due to late deliveries. I just did a check on each of their planes, and it looks like they started with A6-EDQ, as all of the other planes are currently flying. A6-EDQ shows it's last fligt was May 8th. Not sure why they didn't start with A6-EDA, but it must have been time for a C check also. You may need to check alfa male post in emirates delivered frames thread (MSN80 & MSN90 threads). He listed the two frames undergoing wing repairs. One of them MSN90 A6-EDT will ferry today to Dresden to start the repair. While MSN80 A6-EDQ already undergoing the repair in Beijing.
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Post by addasih on May 19, 2013 2:03:40 GMT 1
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