philidor
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Post by philidor on Jan 4, 2018 17:21:11 GMT 1
Two years missing target by one or two frame is definitely not great, must hurt bonus quite a bit. This year, there was no official delivery goal, and we don't really know about internal, bonus-triggering goals.
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Post by ff on Jan 4, 2018 18:57:40 GMT 1
They were too nervous about missing the target again, hence didn't announce it. That's what one of my staff told me when he returned from Airbus for a work visit last year.
Nobody would believe that a modern company like Airbus didn't set an "internal" target and associated with senior staff pay, would anyone?
The target may include a number of KPIs, but the delivery number is definitely one of the KPI, and a major one.
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Post by avest005 on Jan 4, 2018 19:52:36 GMT 1
They were too nervous about missing the target again, hence didn't announce it. That's what one of my staff told me when he returned from Airbus for a work visit last year. Nobody would believe that a modern company like Airbus didn't set an "internal" target and associated with senior staff pay, would anyone? The target may include a number of KPIs, but the delivery number is definitely one of the KPI, and a major one. Would assume so. Hence it is even more frustrating when the issues seems to be supplier related, especially when it comes down to things like toilet doors.
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philidor
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Post by philidor on Jan 5, 2018 1:48:56 GMT 1
Hence it is even more frustrating when the issues seems to be supplier related, especially when it comes down to things like toilet doors. That issue was important in 2016, but it was hardly mentioned in 2017. I think what made Airbus miss its target in 2017 is the delayed Chinese certification, which blocked a few deliveries. The differences with QR about its A320neo order, which resulted in a delivery freeze by QR during most of the year, was another factor. More importantly, I don't think a difference of two or three units matters much.
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Post by kevin5345179 on Jan 5, 2018 1:57:21 GMT 1
Hence it is even more frustrating when the issues seems to be supplier related, especially when it comes down to things like toilet doors. That issue was important in 2016, but it was hardly mentioned in 2017. I think what made Airbus miss its target in 2017 is the delayed Chinese certification, which blocked a few deliveries. The differences with QR about its A320neo order, which resulted in a delivery freeze by QR during most of the year, was another factor. More importantly, I don't think a difference of two or three units matters much. pretty sure 2 or 3 frames do make difference as that is roughly 2 ~ 4 % differences in delivery unit (based on 77 delivery of 2017) I do hope my employer will give me 2 ~ 4 % more on my stipend .....
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philidor
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Post by philidor on Jan 5, 2018 2:19:13 GMT 1
What matters is the rate of production, and whether work proceeds smoothly or not. Whether a few aircraft are delivered in late December or in January is not material.
The A350 situation is good : production is now running at rate ten (=ten aircraft per month, Airbus' official target), and the FAL is working as smoothly as all other Airbus lines.
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Post by mjoelnir on Jan 5, 2018 12:20:52 GMT 1
Hence it is even more frustrating when the issues seems to be supplier related, especially when it comes down to things like toilet doors. That issue was important in 2016, but it was hardly mentioned in 2017. I think what made Airbus miss its target in 2017 is the delayed Chinese certification, which blocked a few deliveries. The differences with QR about its A320neo order, which resulted in a delivery freeze by QR during most of the year, was another factor. More importantly, I don't think a difference of two or three units matters much. The Chinese situation and the Qatar delivery slow down block together about 14 frames. The A350-1000 are right out of certification and therefore slow to be delivered too, Qatar problems can also play a role. That is regarding the frames in "storage". As all other frames seem to roll normal through the process, I think we will start to see steady 10 frames a month being delivered starting sometime this year, with the now stored frames providing a boost sometime this or next year.
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Post by Jkkw on Jan 11, 2018 16:35:29 GMT 1
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Post by marlibu on Jan 12, 2018 22:03:11 GMT 1
whaaaatttt!!!!! awesome way to start my weekend....
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Post by ff on Jan 15, 2018 11:26:06 GMT 1
So this frame was officially delivered on 29th December 2017, and now getting QSuite installed.
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