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Post by a380admirer on Dec 15, 2021 15:32:31 GMT 1
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Post by ca350 on Dec 15, 2021 21:17:17 GMT 1
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Post by Ravi1925 on Jan 14, 2022 16:01:48 GMT 1
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Post by ff on Jan 14, 2022 16:16:41 GMT 1
Surely this is not a CAF. 1952 has been contractually delivered long time ago, over a year already. This could be another functional check flight, but not a CAF. |
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Post by mtrunz on Jan 14, 2022 22:45:40 GMT 1
Surely this is not a CAF. 1952 has been contractually delivered long time ago, over a year already. This could be another functional check flight, but not a CAF. A contact that has insides into Airbus at TLS also mentioned it was a CAF. I dont think it matters if it was delivered yesterday or 2 years ago. |
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Post by ff on Jan 14, 2022 23:26:30 GMT 1
Surely this is not a CAF. 1952 has been contractually delivered long time ago, over a year already. This could be another functional check flight, but not a CAF. A contact that has insides into Airbus at TLS also mentioned it was a CAF. I dont think it matters if it was delivered yesterday or 2 years ago. Contractual delivery means the customer has already accepted an aircraft, it is no longer Airbus property. A simple measure after contractual delivery is, the customer is arranging and paying insurance for the property, not Airbus. On that basis, what is the customer to accept this time? How can that technically be a Customer Acceptance Flight? |
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Post by stealthmanbob on Jan 14, 2022 23:54:29 GMT 1
A contact that has insides into Airbus at TLS also mentioned it was a CAF. I dont think it matters if it was delivered yesterday or 2 years ago. Contractual delivery means the customer has already accepted an aircraft, it is no longer Airbus property. A simple measure after contractual delivery is, the customer is arranging and paying insurance for the property, not Airbus. On that basis, what is the customer to accept this time? How can that technically be a Customer Acceptance Flight? If an aircraft has been stored (short or long term) and looked after by another company, the owner can do a type of CAF flight to accept the aircraft back out of that agreement. |
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Post by addasih on Jan 15, 2022 2:22:30 GMT 1
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Post by ca350 on Jan 15, 2022 4:10:23 GMT 1
Contractual delivery means the customer has already accepted an aircraft, it is no longer Airbus property. A simple measure after contractual delivery is, the customer is arranging and paying insurance for the property, not Airbus. On that basis, what is the customer to accept this time? How can that technically be a Customer Acceptance Flight? If an aircraft has been stored (short or long term) and looked after by another company, the owner can do a type of CAF flight to accept the aircraft back out of that agreement. This. Also if you look at this flight profile, there were tests done at 41,000 feet which is an indication of CAF while most of the FCF (functional flights) were capped at FL350ish. Also low speed test done at FL 130 which also is a standard CAF procedure. www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/f-wwyo/#2a7eb090A possible scenario for me is that for 1952, Airbus delivered to lessor Avalon on paper in December 2020 to boost the year end performance, while this time it's the airline (Azul) delivery crew to actually accept the aircraft technical wise. Of course we won't know for sure unless we have the inside info but a CAF after paper delivery is very possible and same thing happens at Boeing a bunch as well. |
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Post by ca350 on Jan 22, 2022 0:00:20 GMT 1
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