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Post by Ravi1925 on Apr 16, 2019 14:46:23 GMT 1
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Post by sciing on May 7, 2019 17:53:11 GMT 1
Seems to be delivered to ALAFCO on April 3rd acc. OD sheet, but Sichuan was not mentioned.
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Post by ca350 on May 7, 2019 18:07:43 GMT 1
Seems to be delivered to ALAFCO on April 3rd acc. OD sheet, but Sichuan was not mentioned. Why would Sichuan be involved in this aircraft? |
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Post by sciing on May 7, 2019 19:31:33 GMT 1
Seems to be delivered to ALAFCO on April 3rd acc. OD sheet, but Sichuan was not mentioned. Why would Sichuan be involved in this aircraft? I mean Hainan, sorry. |
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Post by ca350 on May 7, 2019 20:12:56 GMT 1
Why would Sichuan be involved in this aircraft? I mean Hainan, sorry. Oh no worries at all. Just wanted to make sure I didn't miss any detail here. But as ff said upthread, this frame has the LATAM configuration with C30Y309 while the O&D sheet says its for ALAFCO. So I'm confused here. Could this be that this frame is owned by ALAFCO and originally intended for LATAM and then got sub-leased to Hainan? And currently parked at Toulouse because Hainan's lease hasn't started yet? |
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Post by ff on May 8, 2019 5:53:33 GMT 1
Oh no worries at all. Just wanted to make sure I didn't miss any detail here. But as ff said upthread, this frame has the LATAM configuration with C30Y309 while the O&D sheet says its for ALAFCO. So I'm confused here. Could this be that this frame is owned by ALAFCO and originally intended for LATAM and then got sub-leased to Hainan? And currently parked at Toulouse because Hainan's lease hasn't started yet? Anything associated with HNA is very confusing, the deals they’ve done always last minute or under table, never be very clear. What I heard was HNA was going to accept this frame (whether it was an original LATAM frame I really don’t know, but the configuration is), somehow financial problem and less demand on their network, making them either sold the frame to ALAFCO or NTU lease with ALAFCO - not sure about the timeline. HNA group is still desperately selling assets at the moment, to pay for the debt. There is NO government backing or government background bank involved in helping them (except one of the small government backed bank as part of a consortium involved in a one off loan at the end of last year, that can not be said as significant). My guess is they will have to break the group and sell majority shares in a number of small airlines they set up in recent years. And that’s why we saw they stopped accepting new frames joining those airlines. HX is very likely to be the next one - that’s why HNA security force broken into HX HQ and took all financial records last month. |
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Post by philidor on May 8, 2019 15:00:00 GMT 1
Anything associated with HNA is very confusing, the deals they’ve done always last minute or under table, never be very clear. ..... HNA group is still desperately selling assets at the moment, to pay for the debt. There is NO government backing or government background bank involved in helping them (except one of the small government backed bank as part of a consortium involved in a one off loan at the end of last year, that can not be said as significant). My guess is they will have to break the group and sell majority shares in a number of small airlines they set up in recent years. And that’s why we saw they stopped accepting new frames joining those airlines. HX is very likely to be the next one - that’s why HNA security force broken into HX HQ and took all financial records last month. So many things are political in China that we cannot possibly make any valid prediction. In a free market, the HNA group would already have gone belly up and would have been broken up by its creditors. This is not happening because it's probably not what the government wants ... |
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Post by Ravi1925 on May 14, 2019 15:05:41 GMT 1
Taxi check completed
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Post by Ravi1925 on Jun 7, 2019 12:51:49 GMT 1
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Post by ff on Jun 7, 2019 13:52:55 GMT 1
Strictly speaking, this is not a test flight that part of the manufacturing process, because it has been delivered already. So the sequence of "third test flight" is a bit misleading. |
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