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Post by addasih on Mar 11, 2019 19:50:07 GMT 1
| A350-1000 | MSN362 British Airways #3 | | Test registration | F-WZFK | | Registration | G-XWBC | | Roll Out (TLS) | October 26, 2019 | | First flight | November 6, 2019 (AIB01FK) - (#39 to fly) | | Flight Test | November 12, 2019 (AIB02FK) | | Flight Test | November 15, 2019 (AIB03FK) | | CAF | November 19, 2019 (AIB04FK) | | Delivered | November 26, 2019 | | Delivery flight | November 26, 2019 (#33 delivered) - BAW350 TLS-LHR |
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Post by addasih on Mar 11, 2019 19:50:29 GMT 1
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mjoelnir
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Post by mjoelnir on Mar 12, 2019 8:11:58 GMT 1
I was reading that on airliners.net and was speculating what entering the Pre-FAL means for that poster. If he means station 59, I would call that entering FAL. Pre-FAL means to me Pre-FAL production like finishing the wing in Bremen, or doing the fuselage parts in XFW. |
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Post by philidor on Mar 13, 2019 10:34:11 GMT 1
I was reading that on airliners.net and was speculating what entering the Pre-FAL means for that poster. To me, being in pre-FAL means that parts are arriving to the FAL from the different sites where they are built. What 'being in pre-FAL' means to each individual may of course be different. |
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mjoelnir
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Post by mjoelnir on Mar 13, 2019 10:54:00 GMT 1
I was reading that on airliners.net and was speculating what entering the Pre-FAL means for that poster. To me, being in pre-FAL means that parts are arriving to the FAL from the different sites where they are built. What 'being in pre-FAL' means to each individual may of course be different. That is different from what the usage has been here. When the different parts arrive at the FAL, the parts do arrive at the final assembly line. So in my opinion station 59 for example, is not pre FAL, but part of the FAL operation. Having the FAL split into sections, does not make the early sections pre FAL. The difference between the A330 and A350 FAL is that the work is split differently. So in station 59 for the A350 work is done that is done in a later stage in the A330 line. If we look at XFW, I look at the FALs for the A320 family and pre FAL in XFW is manufacturing parts that are than assembled in the FAL. We do not talk about a pre FAL in Mobil or Tianjin. |
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Post by peter on Mar 13, 2019 20:34:33 GMT 1
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mjoelnir
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Post by mjoelnir on Mar 13, 2019 23:24:47 GMT 1
That does not define that there is a Pre FAL operation in TLS, it rather shows were the Pre FAL work is done. |
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Post by sciing on Mar 14, 2019 5:13:11 GMT 1
That does not define that there is a Pre FAL operation in TLS, it rather shows were the Pre FAL work is done. It was nowhere mentioned that the Pre FAL is in TLS. It was not an TLS only production update. According to the posts on anet MSN 329 and 333 just entered FAL (which is in TLS), so parts for a MSN 36x are for sure everywhere else but not TLS. |
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mjoelnir
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Post by mjoelnir on Mar 14, 2019 8:49:53 GMT 1
That does not define that there is a Pre FAL operation in TLS, it rather shows were the Pre FAL work is done. It was nowhere mentioned that the Pre FAL is in TLS. It was not an TLS only production update. According to the posts on anet MSN 329 and 333 just entered FAL (which is in TLS), so parts for a MSN 36x are for sure everywhere else but not TLS. Now I have to start to split hairs and go back to the original post referencing a post on the A350 thread on airliners.net. MSN 362 (BA #3) entered PRE-FALI was discussing that there is no single place that could be called PRE-FAL. What does the above quote mean. Pieces arriving at TLS, than one should right pieces arriving in TLS and the would arrive at the FAL. If it means a wing seen at Broughton, than that should be a wing seen at Broughton. The same with spotting a fuselage part in XFW. MSN362 entering PRE-FAL is just a strange statement, that I do not get what it should mean and here I talk about me. |
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Post by cmg25 on Mar 14, 2019 9:54:11 GMT 1
Hello, my meaning of "entered PRE-FAL" specifically means that parts of the upcoming aircraft were start being builtin in different production sites such as Hamburg, Bremen or Saint Nazaire
I want to apologize if there is anything wrong or something confused everyone
- Camia
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