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Post by stealthmanbob on Dec 3, 2022 17:19:16 GMT 1
Looks like around 70 deliveries in November, making YTD total around 565. Still a very long way from the (already-reduced) 700 year end delivery target, Airbus will need to reach pre-pandemic level of delivery in December to reach 700, which is a big ask. December 2017: 127 December 2018: 127 December 2019: 138 December 2020: 89 December 2021: 93 Why should Airbus not reach pre pandemic levels in December 2022? I regards to the A320 family Airbus has been quite busy the last months, November saw 54 first flights, October 48 and September 43. So the pipeline is spitting out frames. Most of month this year there have been more first flights than deliveries. Still suffering from supplies chain issue. |
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Post by ca350 on Dec 6, 2022 18:02:13 GMT 1
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Post by someone on Dec 10, 2022 7:05:14 GMT 1
November deliveries: 68
A220-300: 6
A320neo: 28
A321neo: 25
A330-200: 1
A330-800: 1
A330-900: 2
A350-900: 5
YTD 2022 (YTD 2021)
A220: 45 (43)
A220-100: 6 (3)
A220-300: 39 (40)
A32x: 440 (417)
A319: - (2)
A319neo: 6 (2)
A320neo: 214 (225)
A321: 0 (21)
A321neo: 220 (167)
A330: 28 (16)
A330-200: 4 (3)
A330-300: 4 (0)
A330-800: 3 (1)
A330-900: 17 (12)
A350: 48 (39)
A350-900: 42 (36)
A350-1000: 8 (3)
A380: 0 (3)
Total: 563 (518)
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Post by ff on Dec 28, 2022 10:46:08 GMT 1
Just doing a quick counting for possible year-end delivery number.
So far, 69 deliveries been done in December, 2 A350-1000, 7 A350-900, 2 A330-900, 1 A330-200 MRTT, 33 A321neo, 23 A320neom, and 1 A220-300.
42 frames have done CAF (or second flight) and could be delivered in the next few days.
2 A350-900: 557 Starlex, 571 Sichuan
1 A330-900: 2024 Condor
18 A320neo: 10783 Colorful Guizhou, 10820 China Eastern, 10926 Spring, 11033 Vistara, 11125 Eurowings, 11140 Avianca, 11143 Cebu, 11150 Lufthansa, 11216 IndiGo, 11220 China Eastern, 11222 Spirit, 11224 IndiGo, 11254 Air Cairo, 11261 ITA, 11265 Azerbaijian, 11282 unknown, 11293 LATAM Brasil. Plus 11244 easyJet (currently at TLS DC, prepare for CAF).
14 A321neo: 10434 Anadolu, 10908 Peach, 10960 Juneyao, 11009 Cathay, 11039 Southwind, 11062 Juneyao, 11094 Korean, 11114 IndiGo, 11141 Delta, 11153 AA, 11161 Frontier, 11190 Xiamen, 11194 AA, 11195 Frontier.
7 A220-300: 55184 Breeze, 55186 JetBlue, 55188 Iraqi, 55190 Air Canada, 55195 Delta, 55200 Air France, 55203 Air Senegal
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Post by ff on Dec 28, 2022 11:05:50 GMT 1
That would give Airbus a total of 111 frames in December, but that would only reach 674 in total.
There are a lot of frames in TSN (or CHR/LDE) for Chinese airlines, and it is difficult to know which frames will be delivered by year end.
The following frames all have done at least two test flights, most of them 3-4 flights and up to 7-8. But some of the last flight was done back in September.
18 A320neo: 10603 Qingdao, 10636 Sichuan, 10671 Spring, 10721 China Express, 10722 Spring, 10749 Qingdao, 10800 Chengdu (CHR), 10847 China Express, 10872 Sichuan, 10879 Qingdao, 10895 China Express, 10910 Sichuan, 10971 Qingdao, 10978 Loong Air, 10994 China Eastern (CHR), 11063 Chengdu, 11089 Soring, 11098 Spring.
7 A321neo: 10410 Qingdao (LDE), 10448 Qingdao (LDE), 10455 Sichuan, 10535 Loong Air, 10724 Qingdao (LDE), 10821 Air Chinam 10905 Loong Air.
Not all these frames and the 42 frames mentioned above will be delivered by year end, but if most of them can be handed over (contractually), Airbus should have a pretty decent delivery number for 2022, considering all sorts of shortages in the supply chain.
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Post by ca350 on Dec 28, 2022 17:24:01 GMT 1
That would give Airbus a total of 111 frames in December, but that would only reach 674 in total. There are a lot of frames in TSN (or CHR/LDE) for Chinese airlines, and it is difficult to know which frames will be delivered by year end. The following frames all have done at least two test flights, most of them 3-4 flights and up to 7-8. But some of the last flight was done back in September. 18 A320neo: 10603 Qingdao, 10636 Sichuan, 10671 Spring, 10721 China Express, 10722 Spring, 10749 Qingdao, 10800 Chengdu (CHR), 10847 China Express, 10872 Sichuan, 10879 Qingdao, 10895 China Express, 10910 Sichuan, 10971 Qingdao, 10978 Loong Air, 10994 China Eastern (CHR), 11063 Chengdu, 11089 Soring, 11098 Spring. 7 A321neo: 10410 Qingdao (LDE), 10448 Qingdao (LDE), 10455 Sichuan, 10535 Loong Air, 10724 Qingdao (LDE), 10821 Air Chinam 10905 Loong Air. Not all these frames and the 42 frames mentioned above will be delivered by year end, but if most of them can be handed over (contractually), Airbus should have a pretty decent delivery number for 2022, considering all sorts of shortages in the supply chain. Thanks for putting this up. Assuming you are talking about contractual deliveries. Most of the stored TSN frame are already delivered on paper. To name a few 10603 - delivered 2022/01 10671/10722/10910(CALC) - delivered 2022/06 10847/10879 - delivered 2022/07 10895 - delivered 2022/08 11098 - delivered 2022/10 11089 - delivered 2022/11 The MU frames at CHR are delivered on airbus books as well. The Qingdao A321s at LDEs are AerCap frames and delivered on paper before their ferries. Check Qingdao thread for more details. |
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Post by ff on Dec 28, 2022 17:31:31 GMT 1
ca350 Many thanks for these information, yes I am only talking about contractual deliveries. As I don't normally monitor narrow body frames, I don't have the knowledge. I am interested in the year-end delivery figure, so did a counting in Christmas break. I know you have more comprehensive list, and you did a very useful summary last December (or could be the year before?). My list certainly won't be as comprehensive as yours. Thanks again, and Happy New Year!
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Post by ca350 on Dec 28, 2022 17:36:15 GMT 1
ca350 Many thanks for these information, yes I am only talking about contractual deliveries. As I don't normally monitor narrow body frames, I don't have these knowledge. I am interested in see the final year end delivery figure, so did a counting in Christmas break. I know you have more comprehensive list, and you did a very useful summary last December (or could be the year before?). My list certainly won't be as comprehensive as yours. Thanks again, Happy New Year! No worries! I was thinking about putting up one but wasn't able to find much time on this. Your XFW/TLS/BFM lists should be comprehensive and whatever that's done a second flight/CAF are pretty safe bet for end of year deliveries (at least on contract). TSN is done for the year is what I heard. It does look like Airbus can manage get to 670 but 680 I'd say is kinda a stretch goal. Let's see what they are able to do in the last 2ish working days. Cheers! |
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Post by someone on Dec 30, 2022 10:02:28 GMT 1
It is also the x-factor with those contractually delivered, but not having had their delivery flight
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Post by ca350 on Jan 2, 2023 19:55:58 GMT 1
Happy new year everyone!
Continuing on from previous discussions on potential total deliveries # for Airbus commercial year of 2022.
563 paper deliveries recorded by Airbus thru end of November.
108 delivery flights flew out of Airbus FAL in December 2022, though most of delivery flights on 12/01 were November deliveries.
Tentative list of December flyouts that were delivered on contract prior. (should be relatively accurate, give or take ~ 2 frames) (26)
11181 (2022/11 to ACG)
10637 (2022/04)
10655 (2021/11)
10797 (2022/04 to CALC)
10997 (2022/08)
10780 (2022/06 to CALC)
11021 (2022/09)
10188 (2021/07 to Boccom)
550 (2021/12)
11124 (2022/11)
10353 (2022/11)
10909/11146 (2022/11)
55178 (2022/11)
11155 (2022/11)
55182/55183 (2022/11)
11199 (2022/11)
11013 (2022/11)
10939 (2022/11)
11112 (2022/11)
10888/11042/10862 (2022/11)
583 (2022/11)
11108 (2022/11)
CCAR Canada export list (1): 55200 12/29 - AF
Jan flyouts (3):
10973 (01/02)
11083 & 11114 filed for (01/03)
Frames that have been done CAF/second flight in December (16)
10645, 10908, 11009, 11039, 11094, 11150, 11194, 11195, 11220 (ferried to LFBF indicative of paper delivery), 11222, 11244, 11252, 11288, 557, 571, 11161
Total 2022 deliveries estimation: 563 + 108 - 26 + 1 + 3 + 16 = 665
Note: there's a chance that some of the CAF frames did not make 2022 deliveries but some frames that have not been active for a couple months got delivered on paper in 2022. So this number is just a ball park number that hopefully gives some sense on what Airbus might be able to achieve in 2022. The formal announcement should be out on the week of 01/10.
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