noistar
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Post by noistar on Mar 21, 2013 1:16:17 GMT 1
I saw this article as well. My first impression was 'what happened to safety first'? HANDLING the problem, rather than FIXING it seems a dangerous, relatively cheap cop-out and seems to fly (no pun intended) in the face of what Boeing and Airbus always say -safety first. How far will the regulators go, allowing dangerous things to happen? Is FAA American by any chance?
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tomparis1
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Post by tomparis1 on Mar 22, 2013 16:07:55 GMT 1
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Post by eastmids13 on Mar 22, 2013 16:18:00 GMT 1
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Post by eastmids13 on Mar 22, 2013 16:21:34 GMT 1
...unless Air India decide to take a punt that is...depends on compensation discussions. Does anybody know if AI managed to sell their 787s to lease back? I would imagine a definite no, but stranger things have happened. Anyway enough 787...fingers crossed for MSN124's 1st flight!!! :-)
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Post by addasih on Mar 22, 2013 19:05:09 GMT 1
...unless Air India decide to take a punt that is...depends on compensation discussions. Does anybody know if AI managed to sell their 787s to lease back? I would imagine a definite no, but stranger things have happened. Anyway enough 787...fingers crossed for MSN124's 1st flight!!! :-) It was put on hold since the planes were grounded
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Post by addasih on Mar 22, 2013 21:01:40 GMT 1
Sad news but I think it is the reality
Jon Ostrower tweeted
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noistar
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Post by noistar on Mar 23, 2013 15:14:32 GMT 1
Shame that many of the 'if it ain't Boeing I'm not going' brigade are finding 787 slots filled with A330s (sorry - couldn't resist it )
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Post by eastmids13 on Mar 25, 2013 12:59:42 GMT 1
Sad news but I think it is the reality Jon Ostrower tweeted Just on this I am led to believe, in Boeing's case, that it is more to do with the learning curve (on both aircrafts) delivering a much reduced number of manhours required to produce each unit. For any new product introduction the learning curve is (or should) be rapid as design / production problems & inefficiencies are identified & resolved...as with the A380 wing cracks / 787 battery / car recalls there are always blips from unidentified issues that are only identified through 'road' testing or operation use. Certainly the A380 learning curve from 2003>2008 was significant, allowing wings to be assembled in less manhours (effectively increasing capacity, or allowing the same to be done with less people thus freeing resources to other models, be it to increase output of A320 or focus on new models (eg A350). However it may be a result of slow sales/grounding & that Boeing wants to shift figures in their P&L columns for financial reporting & it is a convenient 'reason' to reduce headcount on these aircraft...especially as it appears to affect workers by seniority. I'm not always a fan of this short term thinking as from a cash viewpoint it can be cash negative (redundancy pay with workers sometimes being rehired in short / mid-term future). Only mgmt will really know!
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Post by eastmids13 on Mar 25, 2013 19:10:35 GMT 1
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XWB
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Post by XWB on Mar 25, 2013 19:54:08 GMT 1
On the move.
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