XWB
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Post by XWB on May 20, 2014 14:49:15 GMT 1
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Post by starbucks on May 20, 2014 15:08:38 GMT 1
The "We are on track and ready to power the first a320neo in late summer" intrigues me... It backs earlier rumors of a first flight in September of 2014 in stead of the earlier mentioned Q42014 or October  Exciting times, have the A350 certified by September and waste no time on the A320neo! //Edit: just read on Twitter that P&W announced a higher (35000lbs) thrust variant of the GTF for the A321neo, I wonder what that does for any TATL capabilities. |
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XWB
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Post by XWB on May 20, 2014 15:12:31 GMT 1
I remember the A350 was supposed to fly in mid-summer It happened a little bit earlier. Perhaps Airbus is (again) very conservative about the schedule. Or maybe not. It is not really a rumor, it was Tom Enders himself who had mentioned September. |
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philidor
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Post by philidor on May 20, 2014 15:37:09 GMT 1
This is a major milestone. The programme as a whole seemed to be moving faster than expected, but there still was a question mark about the engine delivery date. Now, everything seems to be fine !
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philidor
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Post by philidor on May 20, 2014 15:44:38 GMT 1
... //Edit: just read on Twitter that P&W announced a higher (35000lbs) thrust variant of the GTF for the A321neo, I wonder what that does for any TATL capabilities. I think it's mainly about improving take-off performance and high-and-dry operations. A thrust bump should not however increase range - if anything, it might slightly increase fuel burn ... |
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Post by mjoelnir on May 20, 2014 16:08:55 GMT 1
... //Edit: just read on Twitter that P&W announced a higher (35000lbs) thrust variant of the GTF for the A321neo, I wonder what that does for any TATL capabilities. I think it's mainly about improving take-off performance and high-and-dry operations. A thrust bump should not however increase range - if anything, it might slightly increase fuel burn ... It will improve take-off performance. It could increase range, as the fully loaded A321-200ceo can not reach the full service ceiling in the first part of a flight, leading to a flight lower than the optimal height. |
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Post by s543 on May 20, 2014 16:44:26 GMT 1
And is it such a big problem to add some tanks to increase the range a bit on a cost of load ?
For TATL operation there should be 3 classes anyway i.e. less people i.e. less load ?
The range of the NEO is just barely not enough for the thin TATL routes.
There are BBJ-ACJ 737-319-320 which can make over 6000nm - so it is possible !
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Post by quidam on May 20, 2014 17:00:06 GMT 1
Yes, it is technically possible. But in real airlines world not economically feasible. The cost of flying that additional fuel would be to high, and the revenues to small. Next gen narrowbodies should be TATL capable though.
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Post by Jkkw on May 24, 2014 5:23:58 GMT 1
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Post by Jkkw on May 24, 2014 8:11:00 GMT 1
And here are payload/range charts taken from the documents above comparing the sharklet/neo models.  A319 by JKKW, on Flickr  A320neo by JKKW, on Flickr  A321neo by JKKW, on Flickr |
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