noistar
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Post by noistar on Oct 31, 2013 1:46:09 GMT 1
With MSN128 delivered today, here's an update of what's left for this year: October 2013MSN125 - TG5 MSN136 - EK38 November 2013MSN131 - TG6 MSN133 - EK MSN134 - EK November/December 2013MSN135 - EK MSN139 - EK December 2013MSN138 - EK MSN140 - EK Fabien Hi Fabien Still using EK....? I respect the agreed frame sequence policy, but remain convinced that the Nth frame remains the Nth frame irrespective of delivery sequence. If a frame is destroyed before completion, did it never exist? Glad TG125 proved that guessing games are a bit pointless. Obviously just a different interpretation - Nth frame, but the N?th frame delivered. The policy is agreed, but I'm sure we all respect different views. As I said in another thread, I enjoy this forum for its non-confrontational manner. Such a difference to the powder keg in a Thailand one. Thanks for continued work keeping this forum interesting and factual and to all the contributors. I'm afraid my only relevant input would be the difference at Thai immigration at BKK if your flight arrives just after an A380!!
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danteg
Final Assembly Line stage 1
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Post by danteg on Nov 1, 2013 3:37:09 GMT 1
Have any delivery dates been set for the frames listed for delivery in November.
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Post by FabienA380 on Nov 11, 2013 16:58:44 GMT 1
MSN134, MSN133 and MSN135 would now obviously be the only 3 EK frames delivered in November, they have respectively had (including CFF) 4, 3 and 2 post-outfitting flight tests. As a friendly reminder, the last EK frames had before delivery: MSN136 - 6 flight tests MSN127, MSN132, MSN123, MSN119 and MSN116 - 4 flight tests MSN113 - 8 flight tests... might EK deliveries start soon again with MSN134??... Fabien
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XWB
in service - 11 years
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Post by XWB on Nov 12, 2013 9:41:22 GMT 1
MSN134 is now at the delivery center and should deliver on November 14th, per alfamale.
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Post by chornedsnorkack on Nov 22, 2013 15:50:17 GMT 1
Is A380 still at 111, or what is the current number?
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Post by addasih on Nov 22, 2013 16:13:10 GMT 1
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noistar
Final Assembly Line stage 2
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Post by noistar on Dec 13, 2013 0:32:18 GMT 1
Assuming my info is correct. Funny how Emirates 138_42,139_43,140_44 were in the same sequence until OF, then became 43,44,42. Even stranger how 138_42 was then delivered first, assuming they all had the wing-fix done. Why did MSN138 spend so long in OF? Why is MSN139 so slow? What has it been doing since OF rollout? Seems like MSN138 had the wing fix done during OF, in which case the next 2 should be out of sequence - 140 followed by 139. Better put the deer stalker away
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philidor
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Post by philidor on Dec 13, 2013 0:45:39 GMT 1
Assuming my info is correct. Funny how Emirates 138_42,139_43,140_44 were in the same sequence until OF, then became 43,44,42. Even stranger how 138_42 was then delivered first, assuming they all had the wing-fix done. Why did MSN138 spend so long in OF? Why is MSN139 so slow? What has it been doing since OF rollout? Seems like MSN138 had the wing fix done during OF, in which case the next 2 should be out of sequence - 140 followed by 139. Better put the deer stalker away You are asking excellent questions. I doubt we can answer them, as Airbus has been tight-lipped on these issues.
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noistar
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Post by noistar on Dec 13, 2013 1:01:33 GMT 1
Assuming my info is correct. Funny how Emirates 138_42,139_43,140_44 were in the same sequence until OF, then became 43,44,42. Even stranger how 138_42 was then delivered first, assuming they all had the wing-fix done. Why did MSN138 spend so long in OF? Why is MSN139 so slow? What has it been doing since OF rollout? Seems like MSN138 had the wing fix done during OF, in which case the next 2 should be out of sequence - 140 followed by 139. Better put the deer stalker away You are asking excellent questions. I doubt we can answer them, as Airbus has been tight-lipped on these issues. But of course, it's the fact that answers don't seem to be forth-coming from the hors's mouth, which makes the forum and the posters' contributions so interesting. I am always full of questions and am always grateful when my fellow forum members can clarify things. Blame (I can't guess a convoy) Fabien for giving us the raw data to work on
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philidor
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Post by philidor on Dec 14, 2013 13:57:45 GMT 1
From the end of last year, we have been trying to understand how the permanent wing-fix process was set up. We noticed that not all aircraft followed the same sequence, the job sometimes being performed in TLS, some other times in HFW. We had a protracted debate on whether the wing-fix could, or could not, be implemented at the same time as outfitting.
In spite of our efforts, I don't think we reached a clear conclusion, probably because Airbus has been improving the process during the course of the year.
Now, the issue is moot, at least as far as the FAL is concerned, since all undelivered airframes that needed the fix have received it (all airframes to be delivered after MSN 139 and MSN 140 have the new wing).
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