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Post by mjoelnir on Mar 31, 2019 12:03:06 GMT 1
More and more A321neo should have an ACF fuselage. I don't think we can rule out the possibility that ACF fuselage production is still holding A321neo deliveries. There are also non AFC A321neos delayed and there are news about A321neo LR being delayed because of engine trouble. |
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Post by mtrunz on Mar 31, 2019 16:30:56 GMT 1
There are no more A321 delayed than A320. There are only XFW frames delayed even CEOs. So I am little bit lost to understand why this should be an engine issue. Engine issue would mean gliders. I have not seen any stored glider in last months. Air Transat first A321LR to be delayed by four to six weeks blueswandaily.com/air-transat-first-a321lr-to-be-delayed-by-four-to-six-weeks/quote: Air Transat president Jean-Francois Lemay said Airbus expects a four to six week delay in deliveries of the carrier’s initial A321LR, due to issues related to the enginesJust wanted to point out that the article is 6 months old. A lot of changes might have happened since then so it may or may not be relevant today. |
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Post by stealthmanbob on Mar 31, 2019 17:04:49 GMT 1
Just wanted to point out that the article is 6 months old. A lot of changes might have happened since then so it may or may not be relevant today. It might be an old article, but the Air Transat A321LRs are now delayed by even more than that article suggested ? |
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Post by mtrunz on Mar 31, 2019 22:36:21 GMT 1
Just wanted to point out that the article is 6 months old. A lot of changes might have happened since then so it may or may not be relevant today. It might be an old article, but the Air Transat A321LRs are now delayed by even more than that article suggested ? I think so far only almost 2 weeks. It’s still delayed either way obviously. That link has recently been spreading around airliners.net and that’s why I pointed out. |
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Post by sciing on Apr 1, 2019 19:36:38 GMT 1
Air Tansat MSN 8755 is a perfect example, stored with engines since at least end of February, waiting for engines?
Why were frames send to DRS?
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Post by ca350 on Apr 1, 2019 21:58:22 GMT 1
It's increasingly evident this is an ongoing XFW issue rather than neo engine issues. MSN 8822 A321ceo for Delta has been stored with engines which we don't normally see. Another picture posted by addasih in the CEO thread shows MSN 8786 A320ceo for Viva Columbia just get towed out ready for flight tests. At the same time, TLS are already working on/ flight testing MSN 8860-8900 range. While XFW has been lagging and only mainly are at mid 8700-8800 range (barring some exceptions), both for ceo and neos. Normally from the past few years, XFW is usually ahead of TLS and others like TSN and BFM, making this year's XFW lagging increasingly evident.
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Post by mjoelnir on Apr 1, 2019 23:40:06 GMT 1
It's increasingly evident this is an ongoing XFW issue rather than neo engine issues. MSN 8822 A321ceo for Delta has been stored with engines which we don't normally see. Another picture posted by addasih in the CEO thread shows MSN 8786 A320ceo for Viva Columbia just get towed out ready for flight tests. At the same time, TLS are already working on/ flight testing MSN 8860-8900 range. While XFW has been lagging and only mainly are at mid 8700-8800 range (barring some exceptions), both for ceo and neos. Normally from the past few years, XFW is usually ahead of TLS and others like TSN and BFM, making this year's XFW lagging increasingly evident. XFW is flight testing frames above 8800 quite a few of them. today first flight: MSN8832 D-AUBK, MSN8831 D-AUBJ Friday 29.3 first flight: MSN8803 D-AUBU Thursday 28.3 first flight: MSN8826 D-AUBH Saturday 23.3 first flight: MSN8848 D-AXAI Friday 22.3 first flight: MSN8818 D-AUBX Having an engine below the wing of stored, seemingly finished, including painted, A321neo, does not mean that it is an engine working to satisfaction. And again, MSN8755 A321LR, delayed in being delivered to Air Transat, is delayed according to news because of engine problems, not some unspecified trouble in XFW. |
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Post by ca350 on Apr 2, 2019 23:19:48 GMT 1
It's increasingly evident this is an ongoing XFW issue rather than neo engine issues. MSN 8822 A321ceo for Delta has been stored with engines which we don't normally see. Another picture posted by addasih in the CEO thread shows MSN 8786 A320ceo for Viva Columbia just get towed out ready for flight tests. At the same time, TLS are already working on/ flight testing MSN 8860-8900 range. While XFW has been lagging and only mainly are at mid 8700-8800 range (barring some exceptions), both for ceo and neos. Normally from the past few years, XFW is usually ahead of TLS and others like TSN and BFM, making this year's XFW lagging increasingly evident. XFW is flight testing frames above 8800 quite a few of them. today first flight: MSN8832 D-AUBK, MSN8831 D-AUBJ Friday 29.3 first flight: MSN8803 D-AUBU Thursday 28.3 first flight: MSN8826 D-AUBH Saturday 23.3 first flight: MSN8848 D-AXAI Friday 22.3 first flight: MSN8818 D-AUBX Having an engine below the wing of stored, seemingly finished, including painted, A321neo, does not mean that it is an engine working to satisfaction. And again, MSN8755 A321LR, delayed in being delivered to Air Transat, is delayed according to news because of engine problems, not some unspecified trouble in XFW. Well my argument is definitely not if frames above MSN 8800 are doing flight tests, it's that XFW as a whole is lagging all the other 3 plants, no matter CEO or NEO. Let's compare CEO progress between XFW and TLS. MSNs not yet flown from XFW: MSN 8748 Batik, MSN 8786 Viva Columbia, MSN 8822, 8854 Delta, MSN 8853 Lufthansa MSNs not yet flown from TLS: None. All CEOs under MSN 8900 have flown or delivered already. It's hardly believable that engines shortage could result in CEO delays in XFW. As for NEOs, it's possible that like you said, a shortage/problem of high thrust engines would result in some NEO delays. But putting all the delays blame on the engines problem is inconclusive. |
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Post by addasih on Apr 2, 2019 23:49:12 GMT 1
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Post by mjoelnir on Apr 3, 2019 1:25:16 GMT 1
XFW is flight testing frames above 8800 quite a few of them. today first flight: MSN8832 D-AUBK, MSN8831 D-AUBJ Friday 29.3 first flight: MSN8803 D-AUBU Thursday 28.3 first flight: MSN8826 D-AUBH Saturday 23.3 first flight: MSN8848 D-AXAI Friday 22.3 first flight: MSN8818 D-AUBX Having an engine below the wing of stored, seemingly finished, including painted, A321neo, does not mean that it is an engine working to satisfaction. And again, MSN8755 A321LR, delayed in being delivered to Air Transat, is delayed according to news because of engine problems, not some unspecified trouble in XFW. Well my argument is definitely not if frames above MSN 8800 are doing flight tests, it's that XFW as a whole is lagging all the other 3 plants, no matter CEO or NEO. Let's compare CEO progress between XFW and TLS. MSNs not yet flown from XFW: MSN 8748 Batik, MSN 8786 Viva Columbia, MSN 8822, 8854 Delta, MSN 8853 Lufthansa MSNs not yet flown from TLS: None. All CEOs under MSN 8900 have flown or delivered already. It's hardly believable that engines shortage could result in CEO delays in XFW. As for NEOs, it's possible that like you said, a shortage/problem of high thrust engines would result in some NEO delays. But putting all the delays blame on the engines problem is inconclusive. If there would be no frames standing around, it could be simple production delays, than it could be problems with the fuselage, wing, slow FAL and so on and on. But we look at heaps of frames standing around after FAL, painted, most likely outfitted and it seems most with engines. Also the A321neo AFC are standing around, after FAL, painted. So get concrete, what would be a reasonable explanation for delays? The only news where it was declared, why the A321LR was delayed, did say engines. |
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