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Post by starbucks on Oct 31, 2013 18:50:25 GMT 1
It seems that Airbus has changed the Beluga callsigns... Currently in the air are: F-GSTB as BGA124 F-GSTF as BGA422 F-GSTC as BGA321 I don't see any logic in these callsigns, but maybe someone over here has some good guesses  |
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Post by addasih on Oct 31, 2013 19:01:55 GMT 1
The only think I can think about for this change is, part of the restructure they split Beluga operation in a different division not Airbus commercial division. The new division is maybe consider like different airline with its own callsign. my 2 cents
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Post by starbucks on Oct 31, 2013 19:44:52 GMT 1
The only think I can think about for this change is, part of the restructure they split Beluga operation in a different division not Airbus commercial division. The new division is maybe consider like different airline with its own callsign. my 2 cents The old callsigns were: F-GSTA as BGA1TA F-GSTB as BGA2TB F-GSTC as BGA3TC etc... So the BGA callsigns were there before, I just can't find any logic in the numbers behind the BGA |
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Post by FabienA380 on Nov 1, 2013 1:10:32 GMT 1
Could it be the number of flights in a year?... (same as A380s, AIB5SQ) Fabien  |
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Post by starbucks on Nov 1, 2013 9:11:42 GMT 1
Could it be the number of flights in a year?... (same as A380s, AIB5SQ) Fabien That would be a very good reasoning, but unfortunately F-GSTC is currently flying as BGA181: www.flightradar24.com/BGA181 (yesterday TC was BGA321) Back to square one |
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Post by mjoelnir on Nov 1, 2013 17:47:49 GMT 1
Perhaps they are normal flight numbers, nothing to do with frame but rather the flight from airport A to B at the time X of the day.
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Post by Jkkw on Nov 11, 2013 9:05:08 GMT 1
And they seem to have gone back to the old callsigns, F-GSTC just took off from Toulouse with a call sign of BGA3TC. www.flightradar24.com/BGA3TC |
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Post by eeqxleeaimkinfal on Jun 19, 2014 19:19:42 GMT 1
This is my third attempt to post this as the first two went horribly wrong using the table function! I know that FR24 does give the route on some occasions but not on most. Now that they have settle down in their usage I thought I would share my findings on Beluga Flight/Route/Numbers/Call-signs with you. The first number is the departure airfield and the second number is the destination. The third is allocated to that airframe for the first, second, third etc flight on that route for that day. They do not always flight them in order ie F-GSTA could be allocated BGA122 as the the second flight of the day between TLS to XFW but could be seen first on the day and another airframe could fly the route later but as BGA121. Sometimes you never see the earlier flight number maybe because there was a problem with the airframe after the routes had been allocated. In the table start at the top with the departure number and then look down that column for the destination: | Departure | 1 TLS | 2 XFW | 3 SNR | 4 CEG | 5 LEGT | 5 SVQ | 6 BYF | 6 NTE | 7 BRE | 8 ICG |
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| | Destination | 1 SNR | 1 TLS
| 1 BYF | 1 TLS | 1 XFW
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| 1 TLS
| 1 TLS | 1 TLS
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| 2 XFW |
2 SNR
| 2 TLS | 2 XFW |
2 CEG
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2 XFW
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| 3 BYF |
3 NTE
| 3 XFW | 3 BRE |
3 TLS
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| 3 SVQ
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| 4 LEGT |
4 BRE
| 4 SVQ | 4 LEGT |
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4 CEG
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| 5 BRE | 5 CEG
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| 5 SNR
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| 5 TLS |
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5 IGS
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| 6 IGS | 6 LEGT
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| 7 SVQ |
7 IGS
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| 7 BRE |
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| 8 CEG | 8 SVQ |
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Other numbers: BGA96x flt numbers have been used for misc flights for example F-GSTC aborted a landing at SNR and diverted to NTE and later flew to SNR BGA961 on 21 May 14. They have also been used to replace normal flt number for routes, especially in the early days of the change. BGA981 was used on 29 Oct 12 to fly between DUS and XFW after BGA 511 (F-GSTB) diverted there the day before due to weather conditions at XFW. BGA99x are used when and airframe has had some flight testing probably after maintenance in TLS BGA999 was seen recently as part of the 20 Years of the Beluga
BGA1000/1001 are used for the Turkish flights from either XFW or BRE and Turkish Aerospace Industries, near Ankara Hope it is useful.  |
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Post by eeqxleeaimkinfal on Jul 29, 2014 12:46:38 GMT 1
On Monday 28 Jul 2014 Airbus Beluga changed the current callsign system. Early indications show that the callsign is made up of the usual BGA followed by 3 digits plus the last letter of their airframe's registration. The difference is in the make up of the 3 digits. The first digit is still not certain as I have only seen one flight on each route in one day. Edit: The first digit changes dependent on the number of iterations of that route on that particular day regardless of airframe. Earlier today XFW to TLS was flown by nr 1 as BGA131A and at this time nr 4 is also en route to TLS from XFW as BGA231D. However the big change is the use of the second and third digits. The second digit is the Departure airfield and the third is the destination airfield and diffierence this time is that each of the regular airfield used have been allocated one number as follows: 1 = TLS 2 = SNR 3 = XFW 4 = CEG 5 = BRE 6 = LEGT 7 = BYF 8 = NTE 9 = SVQ 0 = (tbc) EDIT 11 Aug: 7 confirmed as BYF So using a matrix with 1 to 9/0 down the side for departure airfield and 1 to 9/0 across the top for the destination airfield you can check the route. For example yesterday we had BGA145F which was Beluga Nr 5 going from CEG to BRE; today F is currently en route SVG as BGA159F. F-GSTA flew XFW to NTE as BGA138A yesterday and today has flown back to XFW as BGA183A. It will be interesting what callsigns they use for the flights to and from IGS (edit: possibly 0) and of course the Ankara routes. Early days as I said so we shall see if it on the money!  |
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Post by eeqxleeaimkinfal on Aug 14, 2014 12:19:32 GMT 1
On Monday 28 Jul 2014 Airbus Beluga changed the current callsign system. Early indications show that the callsign is made up of the usual BGA followed by 3 digits plus the last letter of their airframe's registration. The difference is in the make up of the 3 digits. The first digit is still not certain as I have only seen one flight on each route in one day. Edit: The first digit changes dependent on the number of iterations of that route on that particular day regardless of airframe. Earlier today XFW to TLS was flown by nr 1 as BGA131A and at this time nr 4 is also en route to TLS from XFW as BGA231D. However the big change is the use of the second and third digits. The second digit is the Departure airfield and the third is the destination airfield and diffierence this time is that each of the regular airfield used have been allocated one number as follows: 1 = TLS 2 = SNR 3 = XFW 4 = CEG 5 = BRE 6 = LEGT 7 = BYF 8 = NTE 9 = SVQ 0 = (tbc) EDIT 11 Aug: 7 confirmed as BYF So using a matrix with 1 to 9/0 down the side for departure airfield and 1 to 9/0 across the top for the destination airfield you can check the route. For example yesterday we had BGA145F which was Beluga Nr 5 going from CEG to BRE; today F is currently en route SVG as BGA159F. F-GSTA flew XFW to NTE as BGA138A yesterday and today has flown back to XFW as BGA183A. It will be interesting what callsigns they use for the flights to and from IGS (edit: possibly 0) and of course the Ankara routes. Early days as I said so we shall see if it on the money! 0 confirmed today as IGS so numeric list as follows: 1 = TLS 2 = SNR 3 = XFW 4 = CEG 5 = BRE 6 = LEGT 7 = BYF 8 = NTE 9 = SVQ 0 = IGS |
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