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Post by someone on Nov 20, 2013 8:48:35 GMT 1
If you can fill a 350 seat airplane today, you don't need that many years with 5% annual growth before you would need a 500 seat airplane
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Post by eastmids13 on Nov 20, 2013 11:51:27 GMT 1
In addition to others mentioned I think SAA could handle a small fleet (maybe through Doric), same for Air NZ and if Air Ethiopia has any designs on competing with gulf carriers. Personally I'd like to see Air Canada out of Toronto & Vancouver.
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Post by eastmids13 on Nov 20, 2013 12:03:31 GMT 1
I've always wondered whether Hawaiian could do more city stopovers a la Singapore... In addition to others mentioned I think SAA could handle a small fleet (maybe through Doric), same for Air NZ and if Air Ethiopia has any designs on competing with gulf carriers. Personally I'd like to see Air Canada out of Toronto & Vancouver. |
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mjoelnir
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Post by mjoelnir on Dec 14, 2013 1:59:15 GMT 1
I would keep out all the USA airlines, I do not even believe they will go for many B777-9.
I would discount Cathay, ANA, JAL, for what would they need Doric?
My list would be.
1. Aeroflot, they will have to keep up with Transaero.
2. Garuda, they lease a lot of WB for their hadj operation.
3. Saudia, they wet lease quite a few B747-400 here and there.
4. Gulf Air
5. TAM
6. Avianca
7. KLM
8. Philippine Airlines
9. EVA
10: Air India, and than opening India for the A380
and Air Atlanta Icelandic operating them for somebody else
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Post by addasih on Dec 14, 2013 2:07:01 GMT 1
Remove Gulf Air for sure. They have a lot of financial problem and they are downsizing so no way.
I will say Egypt Air and Vietnam airlines are possible
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grisu17
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Post by grisu17 on Dec 14, 2013 11:12:05 GMT 1
Whats about South African Airlines? I think 3 or 4 are possible.
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Post by walter on Dec 23, 2013 15:40:19 GMT 1
How about Air India? They operate 5 747s and after some financial problems it seems they improve … could they take over the 5 Kingfisher orders?
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Post by peter on Dec 23, 2013 19:58:38 GMT 1
How about Air India? They operate 5 747s and after some financial problems it seems they improve … could they take over the 5 Kingfisher orders? I'm not sure about that. Boeing goes through a lot of trouble to deliver the 787's to AI. They try every trick in the book (and foul tricks not in the book) to get discounts on those. Right now, I don't think AI can afford the A380. As for the Kingfisher order, it may still be in the books for Airbus, but I suppose they realize that hell freezes over before they can deliver anything to IT. |
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Post by philidor on Dec 29, 2013 0:06:59 GMT 1
In general, the main question is not whether or not an airline can afford an aircraft type, it is whether or not it can consistently fill it at a good price so as to turn a profit from operating it. If the answer is an obvious 'yes', I don't think finance should be a major issue ...
The problem with Air India is that it has not shown, so far, that it can operate profitably any aircraft type ... I agree that for them A380s might not be an easy way to profits.
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tomparis1
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Post by tomparis1 on Dec 29, 2013 16:39:03 GMT 1
I have read many excellent posts on this subject. Of course, a plane must be economical,
but I think we have not yet noticed a very important aspect: the image of the Airline!
A commercial for example by EK, TG or LH, shows not a B777 or an A330, but only the A380.
I believe Emirates uses very intensively this image. To me this is very clever and of course
a investment in the future.
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