XWB
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Post by XWB on Aug 4, 2016 19:55:38 GMT 1
MSN 47, 69 (at the back) and MSN 76 (front) have a radome at the end of the aircraft. This is different from the first A350s, which only have low-band connectivity. Msn76 4/8/2016 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr
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XWB
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Post by XWB on Aug 4, 2016 21:19:19 GMT 1
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XWB
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Post by XWB on Aug 17, 2016 11:06:26 GMT 1
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Post by peter on Aug 17, 2016 11:18:24 GMT 1
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XWB
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Post by XWB on Aug 31, 2016 15:01:05 GMT 1
Based on QR latest route schedules, expected deliveries as follows:
- MSN 33: early September (resumption of 2nd daily DOH-FRA) - MSN 36: early October (resumption of 2nd daily DOH-MUC) - MSN 42: late October (start DOH-LHR) - MSN 47: late November (2nd DOH-LHR) - MSN 69: early December (start DOH-CDG)
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carl
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Post by carl on Aug 31, 2016 15:40:27 GMT 1
I just read on the internet the news about a "large aircraft order by qatar". In this article Al Baker is cited as saying that the delay of the A350 deliveries is seriously impacting Qatar's growth and that the relationship is "very strained".
When looking at the production schedule I see that the deliveries of the Qatar A350's are running way behind deliveries to other airline companies. Question 1 : Is there something specific to the Qatar A350's which explains the delay?
I also notice that it takes a huge amount of time between the arrival of a Qatar A350 in the Delivery Centre and the first CAF. Much more time than with other customer of A350's. Question 2 : Does anyone see a reason for this?
Question 3 : All this leads me to my final question : Is Qatar dragging its feet in accepting A350's? Are they looking for excuses for deliveries? What would be the reason? Is there any evidence to support this?
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s543
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Post by s543 on Aug 31, 2016 17:00:33 GMT 1
Carl do not forget that the situation was/is exactly the same with the QR 787 production !?!?
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sciing
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Post by sciing on Aug 31, 2016 17:20:05 GMT 1
Carl do not forget that the situation was/is exactly the same with the QR 787 production !?!? So they played this folish game already at that time? Using "quality issues" to defer deliveries, when growth of capacity was stronger than demand! There was a quite smooth last year as Airbus had even worse supplier issues, but deliveries are slower this year for Qatar? At the moment it is for me quite clear that this has nothing to do with quality or supply issues anymore.
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philidor
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Post by philidor on Aug 31, 2016 23:20:04 GMT 1
Carl, everything AAB says must be taken with a grain of salt. He likes to dress manufacturers down in public, but this does not necessarily mean that the differences are deep. On the contrary, his diatribes are often followed by a discrete settlement a few days or weeks later. I think he is just negociating in public. QR is now accepting its A350, so we obviously are in a settlement phase, until another crisis breaks out ...
One particular feature in dealings with QR is that the airline acceptance teams are so zealous that they raise endless quality issues, especially as regards interiors. So, most aircraft are initially rejected as non-compliant, delaying deliveries until the airline eventually accepts some compromise.
So, I would say that having QR as a launch customer guarantees a lot of screaming, though usually 'much ado about nothing', in my opinion.
The most serious pending issue is QR's refusal so far to take delivery of its A320neo, for good reasons this time (until recently Airbus did not warrant operation of the aircraft when outside temperature exceeds 50° C ; the limit now has been raised to 55°). As the engine problems are being solved, I expect the remaining issues to be soon settled.
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carl
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Post by carl on Sept 1, 2016 6:33:56 GMT 1
Carl, everything AAB says must be taken with a grain of salt. He likes to dress manufacturers down in public, but this does not necessarily mean that the differences are deep. On the contrary, his diatribes are often followed by a discrete settlement a few days or weeks later. I think he is just negociating in public. QR is now accepting its A350, so we obviously are in a settlement phase, until another crisis breaks out ... One particular feature in dealings with QR is that the airline acceptance teams are so zealous that they raise endless quality issues, especially as regards interiors. So, most aircraft are initially rejected as non-compliant, delaying deliveries until the airline eventually accepts some compromise. So, I would say that having QR as a launch customer guarantees a lot of screaming, though usually 'much ado about nothing', in my opinion. The most serious pending issue is QR's refusal so far to take delivery of its A320neo, for good reasons this time (until recently Airbus did not warrant operation of the aircraft when outside temperature exceeds 50° C ; the limit now has been raised to 55°). As the engine problems are being solved, I expect the remaining issues to be soon settled. Thanks!
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