philidor
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Post by philidor on Apr 14, 2014 14:15:11 GMT 1
Actually, as long as airlines abide with pax numbers allowed by the regulators, the number of seats remains a matter of comfort, not security ...
In my opinion, premium economy will rise as a consequence of cramped economy cabins, the result being passengers enjoying trade-off options (price or comfort). This seems to be another market trend.
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Post by noistar on Apr 14, 2014 19:46:38 GMT 1
Actually, as long as airlines abide with pax numbers allowed by the regulators, the number of seats remains a matter of comfort, not security ... In my opinion, premium economy will rise as a consequence of cramped economy cabins, the result being passengers enjoying trade-off options (price or comfort). This seems to be another market trend. I hope so - EVA offer that option but not Thai. Let's hope they do. I was just wondering if the location of 'n' passengers was an issue. To use a ridiculous scenario, if all the 10 seats were on the left, with an aisle on the right, would the safety aspect be the same as a 3-5-3? Especially if airlines make the seats so narrow that passengers can't exit quickly enough.
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Post by philidor on Apr 15, 2014 11:23:17 GMT 1
One of the existing requirements is that no passenger should be seated more than two seats away from an aisle. For instance, as a consequence, a 4-3-4 setup would not be accepted since the passengers on both window seats would be three seats away from the aisle.
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Post by Flying Dutchman on Apr 15, 2014 13:21:05 GMT 1
One of the existing requirements is that no passenger should be seated more than two seats away from an aisle. For instance, as a consequence, a 4-3-4 setup would not be accepted since the passengers on both window seats would be three seats away from the aisle. Additionally there is still a maximum number of passengers allowed.But I think it also is per exit door, so can you have a ultra dense configuration in half the aircraft and business in the other half? TCDS No.: A.110 Airbus A380 Page 14 of 17 Issue: 08 Date: 24 September 2013: "3.9. Maximum Seating Capacity The maximum number of passengers approved for emergency evacuation is: 853 Upper deck: 315 pax Main deck: 538 pax See interior layout drawing for the maximum passenger capacities approved for each aeroplane when delivered."
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Post by airboche on Apr 16, 2014 9:51:02 GMT 1
I think Airbus had been on the right route with their roomy initial Economy layout inside the A380. It really matters to me. Especially the nice room next to the window seats.
However airlines might feel nobody cares about seat dimensions anymore when everybody just hunts for the cheapest tickets on the internet. I personally select my travel very much by individual airline and type comfort - aside from the price. So SIA A380s got my business several times over competitor's offers.
A supertight seating must be supercheap. Did that twice on the DOMTOM routes to the Carribean. Interesting but nothing for everyday use.
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Post by Flying Dutchman on Apr 16, 2014 11:49:33 GMT 1
On a short flight, 1 - 2 hours it's o.k. with little space but on a long 10 hours + flight? I think I rather would stay home. Problem is low cost airlines that like to pack their passenger tight are also useless in everything else; service, additional fees, re-bookings etcetera. I think a rather substantial number of people has learned to hate low cost airlines so hopefully there are still a market for service.
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philidor
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Post by philidor on Apr 16, 2014 11:53:47 GMT 1
You are right, Flying Dutchman. No surprise that low cost airlines have not been very successful on long haul ...
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Post by chornedsnorkack on Apr 16, 2014 13:31:57 GMT 1
On a short flight, 1 - 2 hours it's o.k. with little space but on a long 10 hours + flight? I think I rather would stay home. Problem is low cost airlines that like to pack their passenger tight are also useless in everything else; service, additional fees, re-bookings etcetera. I think a rather substantial number of people has learned to hate low cost airlines so hopefully there are still a market for service. How long do Corsair 747-s fly between Paris and Reunion? Or Air France´s 777s with 472 seats? Air France has A380-s, too - how many seats should go in a CIO A380?
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Post by noistar on Apr 16, 2014 19:22:03 GMT 1
One of the existing requirements is that no passenger should be seated more than two seats away from an aisle. For instance, as a consequence, a 4-3-4 setup would not be accepted since the passengers on both window seats would be three seats away from the aisle. So any talk of a centre 6 bank wouldn't be possible. Phew
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Post by s543 on Apr 16, 2014 21:21:12 GMT 1
Why not ? It would still be the same like the 3 seats to the windows. I do not believe there is a legal reason.
OK I would not want to sit there, as most of us here, but.....
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