philidor
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Post by philidor on Oct 6, 2015 0:56:47 GMT 1
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Post by FabienA380 on Oct 6, 2015 11:44:26 GMT 1
Thanks philidor!  That could be the Financial Year, but in the same paragraph it mentions about other planes "Also in 2016" so I would reckon the 21 A380s would be for the calendar 2016 too... Well, we should then have EK: 21: MSN205 MSN206 MSN207 MSN208 MSN209 MSN210 MSN211 MSN213 MSN214 MSN216 MSN217 MSN218 MSN219 MSN220 MSN221 MSN222 MSN223 MSN224 MSN225 MSN226 MSN227 BA: 2: MSN194 MSN215 QR: 2?: MSN193 MSN197 EY: 3: MSN195 MSN198 MSN199 Of which, 15 haven't been convoyed yet... There will be 6 convoys left in 2015, so Airbus needs 9 more convoys early 2016 (full frames) to go up to the 28 A380s total, if 2 convoys per month that would lead to early May, which is feasible for a same-year delivery... Looking all good! |
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mjoelnir
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Post by mjoelnir on Oct 6, 2015 13:06:20 GMT 1
Thanks philidor! That could be the Financial Year, but in the same paragraph it mentions about other planes "Also in 2016" so I would reckon the 21 A380s would be for the calendar 2016 too... Well, we should then have EK: 21: MSN205 MSN206 MSN207 MSN208 MSN209 MSN210 MSN211 MSN213 MSN214 MSN216 MSN217 MSN218 MSN219 MSN220 MSN221 MSN222 MSN223 MSN224 MSN225 MSN226 MSN227 BA: 2: MSN194 MSN215 QR: 2?: MSN193 MSN197 EY: 3: MSN195 MSN198 MSN199 Of which, 15 haven't been convoyed yet... There will be 6 convoys left in 2015, so Airbus needs 9 more convoys early 2016 (full frames) to go up to the 28 A380s total, if 2 convoys per month that would lead to early May, which is feasible for a same-year delivery... Looking all good! If Emirates would take the former Skymark birds, there would not be needed so many convoys. Emirates is anyway taking RR birds as the last 50 frames order. |
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Post by behappy on Oct 6, 2015 20:02:54 GMT 1
QUOTE: Airbus needs 9 more convoys early 2016 (full frames) to go up to the 28 A380s total, if 2 convoys per month that would lead to early May, which is feasible for a same-year delivery... Looking all good! UNQUOTE no problem. easily doable, i'd say |
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ghorn
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Post by ghorn on Oct 7, 2015 12:22:55 GMT 1
Without new orders the A380 orderbook ( unfilled orders ) will soon be almost completely Emirates. Beyond 2016 I can only 'see' the 5 for Singapore.
Although the orderbook is officially 146 as at end of September 2015 many of these are unlikely to be delivered.
Firm orders remaining are ;
Asiana 2
British 3
Emirates 48
Etihad 6
Qatar 5
Singapore 5
Totalling 69 , 9 of which should be delivered in 2015.
Also on the orderbook but doubtful for various reasons are ;
Air Austral 2
Air France 2
Amedeo 20
Emirates 25 ( depends on neo ? )
Qantas 8
Transaero 4
Virgin 6
Undisclosed 10 ( ex Hong Kong )
Totalling 77 , i.e more than half the orderbook.
No wonder there is increased speculation about a production rate cut.
Geoff
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XWB
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Post by XWB on Oct 7, 2015 12:32:58 GMT 1
Emirates is looking to accelerate those last 25 A380's to this decade.
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kronus
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Post by kronus on Oct 7, 2015 13:06:35 GMT 1
Emirates is looking to accelerate those last 25 A380's to this decade. I agree with you, last 25 will be accelarated from 2020-21 year to 2018-19 year. Probably, Emirates while waiting for neo in 2020, will have to lease 20 frames from Amedeo order with deliveries in 2020 and 2021. |
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mjoelnir
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Post by mjoelnir on Oct 7, 2015 13:16:53 GMT 1
Without new orders the A380 orderbook ( unfilled orders ) will soon be almost completely Emirates. Beyond 2016 I can only 'see' the 5 for Singapore. Although the orderbook is officially 146 as at end of September 2015 many of these are unlikely to be delivered. Firm orders remaining are ; Asiana 2 British 3 Emirates 48 Etihad 6 Qatar 5 Singapore 5 Totalling 69 , 9 of which should be delivered in 2015. Also on the orderbook but doubtful for various reasons are ; Air Austral 2 Air France 2 Amedeo 20 Emirates 25 ( depends on neo ? ) Qantas 8 Transaero 4 Virgin 6 Undisclosed 10 ( ex Hong Kong ) Totalling 77 , i.e more than half the orderbook. No wonder there is increased speculation about a production rate cut. Geoff The 25 Emirates orders you call doubtful do not depend on the NEO. Engines are ordered at RR and delivery will be far to early, before 2020, to even touch the NEO. |
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ghorn
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Post by ghorn on Oct 7, 2015 13:18:13 GMT 1
Emirates is looking to accelerate those last 25 A380's to this decade. I agree with you, last 25 will be accelarated from 2020-21 year to 2018-19 year. Probably, Emirates while waiting for neo in 2020, will have to lease 20 frames from Amedeo order with deliveries in 2020 and 2021. That's good news and much more positive about EK's intentions. Even with the 25 from them the orderbook should effectively be empty by the end of 2018 ( 85 planes for delivery in 3 years ) so no need to involve Amedeo for anything they need from 2020. Geoff |
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philidor
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Post by philidor on Oct 7, 2015 16:01:21 GMT 1
I don't share the opinion that Quantas' A380 orders are all dubious ones. The company will take more of them.
EDIT : I know the correct spelling, I just keep repeating the mistake !
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