harty236
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Post by harty236 on Apr 18, 2013 15:44:33 GMT 1
The rumour mill has been churning. According to a source in Ethiopia who is believed to be close to the airline, Boeing has flown a team of 30 out to Addis Ababa to prepare Ethiopian's 787's for a return to service. The source also claimed that the FAA decision will be handed down around April 24th
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harty236
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Post by harty236 on Apr 19, 2013 1:48:29 GMT 1
The FAA has given Boeing approval to resume standard test flights of production 787's.
Having said this, certification of the new battery system will have to occur before deliveries can resume.
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noistar
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Post by noistar on Apr 19, 2013 4:24:06 GMT 1
Do derivatives of a design need to be certified separately? EG, are A350-800, A350-900 and A350-1000 different animals as far as the safety authorities are concerned?
Is this containment solution setting a precedent for the B787, in that it can be incorporated into any Boeing design?
Presumably it's safe, rather than safe but.......
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harty236
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Post by harty236 on Apr 19, 2013 5:14:57 GMT 1
Do derivatives of a design need to be certified separately? EG, are A350-800, A350-900 and A350-1000 different animals as far as the safety authorities are concerned? Is this containment solution setting a precedent for the B787, in that it can be incorporated into any Boeing design? Presumably it's safe, rather than safe but....... AFAIK, each type must receive a separate certification although I would have thought that subsequent versions of an aircraft are easier to certify than the initial. By this I mean I would have thought it would be easier for the A350-1000 to get it's certification than the A350-900, just because the -900 will have covered a lot of the ground already - do correct my if I'm wrong though. With regards to the 787... I guess what you're asking is will this containment solution be adequate for the 787-9 to get it's type certificate?
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noistar
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Post by noistar on Apr 19, 2013 6:03:30 GMT 1
Do derivatives of a design need to be certified separately? EG, are A350-800, A350-900 and A350-1000 different animals as far as the safety authorities are concerned? Is this containment solution setting a precedent for the B787, in that it can be incorporated into any Boeing design? Presumably it's safe, rather than safe but....... AFAIK, each type must receive a separate certification although I would have thought that subsequent versions of an aircraft are easier to certify than the initial. By this I mean I would have thought it would be easier for the A350-1000 to get it's certification than the A350-900, just because the -900 will have covered a lot of the ground already - do correct my if I'm wrong though. With regards to the 787... I guess what you're asking is will this containment solution be adequate for the 787-9 to get it's type certificate? Yes, that was the basis of my B787 question. It's one of those chicken and egg. Presumably the FAA can't refuse to certify the B787-9 for a reason which isn't deemed an issue for the current B787. Glad I'm not an Air Safety professional.
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harty236
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Post by harty236 on Apr 19, 2013 16:43:45 GMT 1
AFAIK, each type must receive a separate certification although I would have thought that subsequent versions of an aircraft are easier to certify than the initial. By this I mean I would have thought it would be easier for the A350-1000 to get it's certification than the A350-900, just because the -900 will have covered a lot of the ground already - do correct my if I'm wrong though. With regards to the 787... I guess what you're asking is will this containment solution be adequate for the 787-9 to get it's type certificate? Yes, that was the basis of my B787 question. It's one of those chicken and egg. Presumably the FAA can't refuse to certify the B787-9 for a reason which isn't deemed an issue for the current B787. Glad I'm not an Air Safety professional. I would guess you are right, however I would have thought Boeing will be looking into a proper fix that gets the kinks out of the batteries themselves. This could could be either retrofitted or just fitted to new production aircraft some years down the line.
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XWB
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Post by XWB on Apr 19, 2013 19:46:26 GMT 1
It's official, the FAA has lifted the grounding.
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harty236
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Post by harty236 on Apr 19, 2013 20:39:12 GMT 1
It's official, the FAA has lifted the grounding. Wonderful news. Now I look forward to seeing the first 787-9 roll out. Should be around July/August.
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noistar
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Post by noistar on Apr 20, 2013 1:28:08 GMT 1
It's official, the FAA has lifted the grounding. Any news on ETOPS? Is it 180?
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Post by addasih on Apr 20, 2013 5:06:05 GMT 1
According from I read in Twitter yes
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