philidor
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Post by philidor on Feb 13, 2015 22:53:54 GMT 1
I suggest to use this thread to explain widely-used aviation acronyms. There are questions I asked myself several times, and I know I have to ask the forum if I want answers.
I'll start with a quote from one of Fabien's latest posts, about Viet-nam airlines 787 cabin configuration :
"Cabin config will be J28 W35 Y211 (274 seats total)."
Now, my questions are, where do these letters (J - W - Y) come from ? Are they an arbitrary choice ? Is there a definition somewhere ? Is it a leftover from the air transport regulation era ?
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Baroque
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Post by Baroque on Feb 14, 2015 0:40:48 GMT 1
Good thread philidor. I shall add: Hamburg Finkenwerder = XFW. About your question on airline fare codes, I'm not sure if you've read it up on wiki, but it does state something similar to yours: For Economy, Y is most common, but others can be: E - e.g. Aeroflot M - e.g. SAS For Premium Economy, in addition to W, here are some others: Y+ - e.g. United Airlines Y - e.g. SAS K - e.g. EVA Air P - e.g. Air Canada M - e.g. Norwegian Long Haul I have seen E+ too, but can't seem to remember which airline. For Business, J is most common, but these are some others possible: B - e.g. United Airlines C - e.g. SAS E - e.g. Air Canada P - e.g. Ethiopian Airlines For First, F is most common, but Hawaiian uses P instead. There's a lot of variability in the coding. Mostly in the middle, with First and Economy being pretty much standardised. I think it is difficult to standardise the middle tiers since a lot of products have different levels of service and comfort and some may look indistinguishable from each other.
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philidor
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Post by philidor on Feb 14, 2015 13:47:24 GMT 1
Thank you, Baroque ! Yet, I cannot say everything is clear ! While the choice of 'F' for 'first' is easy to understand, how on earth was 'J' picked for 'business' or 'Y' for 'economy' ? I don't even dare ask if 'W' was picked by a former US President ... As regards XFW, I heard that some people prefer to use 'HFW' , but I can't remember where I read that ...
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Post by Jkkw on Feb 14, 2015 16:48:17 GMT 1
To add to the confusion, not all passengers in a travel class will have the same booking code as airlines have different booking codes depending on what fare you purchase (eg saver, flexible, etc). Taking International Qantas flights as an example; Fare Type | Booking Codes | Economy Sale | N,O,Q | Economy Saver | G, K, L, M, S | Economy Flex | B, H, Y | Premium Economy Sale | T | Premium Economy Saver | R | Premium Economy Flex | W | Business Sale/Saver | D,I | Business Flex | C,J | First Sale/Saver/Flex | A,F |
Table taken from www.qantas.com.au/fflyer/dyn/program/classTypes#for-travel-on-and-from-18-february-2015Update
Just found this website which explains the conditions/description of booking codes used by American Airlines (Other US airlines are also available) www.cwsi.net/aa.htm
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Baroque
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Post by Baroque on Feb 14, 2015 17:56:15 GMT 1
404. Check link.
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Post by Jkkw on Feb 15, 2015 3:12:30 GMT 1
404. Check link. Go to this site then have a look at fare codes www.cwsi.net/
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XWB
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Post by XWB on Feb 17, 2015 15:33:19 GMT 1
Interesting, SQ uses (used?) R for their A380 suites.
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