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Post by addasih on Mar 11, 2016 12:58:58 GMT 1
Picture time  Here's the Sukhoi Superjet, I've uploaded the pics at quite a high resolution so you'll be able to zoom into it on flickr.  Seriously??  The (oh so modern) Superjet is running Windows XP? Is that common in aviation? Not sure if I would feel safe aboard...  Windows XP is not even supported by Microsoft for a couple of years at least now. I totally agree with you :thumbup: |
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Post by mjoelnir on Mar 11, 2016 14:55:34 GMT 1
Seriously?? The (oh so modern) Superjet is running Windows XP? Is that common in aviation? Not sure if I would feel safe aboard... Windows XP is not even supported by Microsoft for a couple of years at least now. I totally agree with you :thumbup: I have machine tools running NT 4.0 and also Windows 95. I am pretty sure that Microsoft is still supporting both in this application. Industrial application do not follow the consumer market. I have a brand new machine tool with a very modern control running a version of DOS. The reason is very fast execution, much faster than any windows version, and the control has its own user interface. |
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Post by addasih on Mar 11, 2016 15:23:43 GMT 1
Windows XP is not even supported by Microsoft for a couple of years at least now. I totally agree with you :thumbup: I have machine tools running NT 4.0 and also Windows 95. I am pretty sure that Microsoft is still supporting both in this application. Industrial application do not follow the consumer market. I have a brand new machine tool with a very modern control running a version of DOS. The reason is very fast execution, much faster than any windows version, and the control has its own user interface. I work in IT department in aerospace company in Canada. So It is not about Consumer Market. XP is not supported by Microsoft for industrial too. Currently when we refresh laptops we avoid even install Windows 7 as much as we can since the lease of the new laptop expire after 5 years which means 2021. Windows 7 end of life support by Microsoft is 2020. |
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Post by mjoelnir on Mar 11, 2016 20:06:31 GMT 1
I have machine tools running NT 4.0 and also Windows 95. I am pretty sure that Microsoft is still supporting both in this application. Industrial application do not follow the consumer market. I have a brand new machine tool with a very modern control running a version of DOS. The reason is very fast execution, much faster than any windows version, and the control has its own user interface. I work in IT department in aerospace company in Canada. So It is not about Consumer Market. XP is not supported by Microsoft for industrial too. Currently when we refresh laptops we avoid even install Windows 7 as much as we can since the lease of the new laptop expire after 5 years which means 2021. Windows 7 end of life support by Microsoft is 2020. You talk about a laptop, that is the consumer market. If I talk about an industrial application, than I talk about a machine tool, process steering and so on. We are talking about equipment that are bought and supposed to run for 30 years, not a desktop PC thrown out after five years. I took up the phone and asked the computer support about the vision system of the Hering processing lines I sold to my customers. The older lines run on W2K and the newer on XP, both still supported in this applications by Microsoft. |
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Post by Jkkw on Mar 12, 2016 10:29:44 GMT 1
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Post by Baroque on Mar 13, 2016 2:07:41 GMT 1
I'm no IT expert. But I'd imagine that the use of XP for these kind of industrial purposes comes down to it being a well-tested mature operating system. It would be better to avoid newer OSs for industrial applications until bugs and compatibility issues are worked out. And besides, it isn't resource heavy as some of the newer OSs when it comes to the hardware which can themselves be expensive to develop, replace or maintain. I don't see the redesigning of avionics and other hardware happening in the same timescales as ordinary consumer products like our laptops. If it does, it could cause commonality issues too.
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Post by s543 on Mar 13, 2016 6:56:05 GMT 1
I'm no IT expert. But I'd imagine that the use of XP for these kind of industrial purposes comes down to it being a well-tested mature operating system. It would be better to avoid newer OSs for industrial applications until bugs and compatibility issues are worked out. And besides, it isn't resource heavy as some of the newer OSs when it comes to the hardware which can themselves be expensive to develop, replace or maintain. I don't see the redesigning of avionics and other hardware happening in the same timescales as ordinary consumer products like our laptops. If it does, it could cause commonality issues too. Exactly.... if the device is not connected to the NET I do not see any issues with XP - it is for sure more reliable than W8 + W10 and probably W7 too.  |
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Post by Jkkw on Mar 25, 2016 6:54:11 GMT 1
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Post by Jkkw on Apr 9, 2016 5:13:43 GMT 1
Photo time again!! Part one of pics of MSN2. Like a lot of the other aircraft at the airshow, it was a bit hard to get a picture of the entire aircraft since other aircraft would block part of it. As usual, I've uploaded them onto flickr at quite a high resolution.  Airbus A350-900 XWB MSN2 F-WWCF Singapore Airshow 2016 by JKKW, on Flickr  Airbus A350-900 XWB MSN2 F-WWCF Singapore Airshow 2016 by JKKW, on Flickr  Airbus A350-900 XWB MSN2 F-WWCF Singapore Airshow 2016 by JKKW, on Flickr  Airbus A350-900 XWB MSN2 F-WWCF Singapore Airshow 2016 by JKKW, on Flickr  Airbus A350-900 XWB MSN2 F-WWCF Singapore Airshow 2016 by JKKW, on Flickr  Airbus A350-900 XWB MSN2 F-WWCF Singapore Airshow 2016 by JKKW, on Flickr  Airbus A350-900 XWB MSN2 F-WWCF Singapore Airshow 2016 by JKKW, on Flickr  Airbus A350-900 XWB MSN2 F-WWCF Singapore Airshow 2016 by JKKW, on Flickr  Airbus A350-900 XWB MSN2 F-WWCF Singapore Airshow 2016 by JKKW, on Flickr  Airbus A350-900 XWB MSN2 F-WWCF Singapore Airshow 2016 by JKKW, on Flickr And a set of A350 pictures is not complete without more winglet pics!!!  Airbus A350-900 XWB MSN2 F-WWCF Winglet Singapore Airshow 2016 by JKKW, on Flickr  Airbus A350-900 XWB MSN2 F-WWCF Winglet Singapore Airshow 2016 by JKKW, on Flickr  Airbus A350-900 XWB MSN2 F-WWCF Singapore Airshow 2016 by JKKW, on Flickr |
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Post by philidor on Apr 9, 2016 22:46:17 GMT 1
Very interesting ! Thank you, jkkw !
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Here's the Sukhoi Superjet, I've uploaded the pics at quite a high resolution so you'll be able to zoom into it on flickr. 
