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Post by peter on Oct 17, 2021 16:44:43 GMT 1
Could that be the two ex-LATAM frames with Bank of Utah? Or if it's through Avolon, could that be 351 and 355? Both are in LDE and both brand new. A suggestion on A.net says msn 226 and 245, stored at TEV in SAA c/s, both original LATAM orders and owned by Avolon..... |
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Post by ff on Oct 17, 2021 17:03:05 GMT 1
Could that be the two ex-LATAM frames with Bank of Utah? Or if it's through Avolon, could that be 351 and 355? Both are in LDE and both brand new. A suggestion on A.net says msn 226 and 245, stored at TEV in SAA c/s, both original LATAM orders and owned by Avolon..... Thanks Peter, I saw that on A.net too. Just one (or two) suggestions from me, same as what's been suggested on A.net (I believe that one was based on airfleets.net info about 245: www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-a350-245.htm). As they are Q4 delivery/transfer of title, we will know the answer very soon. |
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Post by kronus on Nov 3, 2021 16:12:44 GMT 1
Still we don't know msn of 2 additional used a350 for Delta - but we know that are leased from Vmo Aircraft Leasing: |
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Post by ff on Nov 3, 2021 16:51:45 GMT 1
All news are saying, "The aircraft were delivered during October 2021." Could that be the two ex-LATAM frames with Bank of Utah? Or if it's through Avolon, could that be 351 and 355? Both are in LDE and both brand new. My first guess was half-correct, they were ex-LATAM frames. Digging deep through the Internet, here is what I found. "On behalf of a group of bondholders in the LATAM 2015-1 EETC, SkyWorks arranged the sale of eleven (11) A321-200 aircraft, four (4) 787-9 aircraft, and two (2) A350-900 aircraft to Vmo Aircraft Leasing. SkyWorks also has delivered eight (8) A321-200 aircraft to LATAM on long-term leases with the remaining aircraft scheduled to deliver in Q3 ’21." skyworks.aero/news/skyworks-announces-q2-2021-activities |
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Post by peter on Nov 3, 2021 17:39:33 GMT 1
According to rzjets they are msn's 024 (delivered October 12) and 027 (October 29). Both are/were registered to Wilmington Trust which makes sense I suppose as Vmo and WTC combined are involved in lawsuits about the ex-LATAM aircraft (and also about a bunch of Norwegian 737's).
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Post by kronus on Nov 5, 2021 5:37:35 GMT 1
According to rzjets they are msn's 024 (delivered October 12) and 027 (October 29). Both are/were registered to Wilmington Trust which makes sense I suppose as Vmo and WTC combined are involved in lawsuits about the ex-LATAM aircraft (and also about a bunch of Norwegian 737's). Planespotters.net confirmed that msn 24 and 27 are two used a350 for Delta:
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Post by ca350 on Nov 16, 2021 10:05:38 GMT 1
MSN 45 re-registered as N286BN on 11/15 per FAA data.
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Post by kronus on Nov 16, 2021 11:22:31 GMT 1
MSN 45 re-registered as N286BN on 11/15 per FAA data. As earlier re-registered msn 35 as n285bn and msn 79 as n287bn, all three now belong to Bank of Utah. Fourth frame msn 363 registered as N264AR belong to Wilmington Trust. All four frames probably are destined for Delta, but lessor is not known yet. |
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Post by ca350 on Nov 19, 2021 20:43:24 GMT 1
According to rzjets they are msn's 024 (delivered October 12) and 027 (October 29). Both are/were registered to Wilmington Trust which makes sense I suppose as Vmo and WTC combined are involved in lawsuits about the ex-LATAM aircraft (and also about a bunch of Norwegian 737's). MSN 24 was registered on 11/17 per FAA data to UMB Bank which is likely a proxy behind the actual lessor (Vmo I assume. SO this is likely just a hand-over between lessor/aircrafts management companies and I'll assume a re-registration to Delta reg will happen relatively soon. |
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Post by kronus on Jan 9, 2022 11:32:19 GMT 1
MSN 45 re-registered as N286BN on 11/15 per FAA data. As earlier re-registered msn 35 as n285bn and msn 79 as n287bn, all three now belong to Bank of Utah. Fourth frame msn 363 registered as N264AR belong to Wilmington Trust. All four frames probably are destined for Delta, but lessor is not known yet. In thursday delta will announce results of 2021 year. Maybe then, Delta announce third lease deal for a350 used frames (this time for msn 35, 45, 79 and 363) as was earlier with previous two deals (both announced during quarterly 2021 results presentations).
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