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Post by Jkkw on Sept 6, 2017 14:39:38 GMT 1
From the United A350s thread, delivery will be from late 2022 until 2027  Ahhh, good! Plenty of time to change the order again  well, so far they've changed the order twice and both times they added 10 extra aircraft! |
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Post by peter on Sept 6, 2017 14:53:47 GMT 1
well, so far they've changed the order twice and both times they added 10 extra aircraft! True. [sceptical] But what if three years from now they change their order to 55 -1000's with deliveries to start in late 2026 [/sceptical] |
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Post by stealthmanbob on Sept 6, 2017 15:35:01 GMT 1
well, so far they've changed the order twice and both times they added 10 extra aircraft! True. [sceptical] But what if three years from now they change their order to 55 -1000's with deliveries to start in late 2026 [/sceptical] Yes, in ten years time they may have 90 on order but still not received one  |
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Post by pa380scal on Sept 6, 2017 16:56:13 GMT 1
1x A320neo for Frontier
10x A321ceo for Wizzair
1x ACJ319Neo for private customer:
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Post by Jkkw on Sept 7, 2017 9:04:01 GMT 1
1x A320neo for Frontier 10x A321ceo for Wizzair 1x ACJ319Neo for private customer It looks like with Frontier, they cancelled an A320neo and reordered it as there's no net change in their order and there was a cancellation for 1 A320neo. Also the ACJA319neo is a conversion from a ceo although Airbus put the '-1' in the wrong column in the conversion table on the Spreadsheet. Other than that, no cancellations for August. Gross orders stand at 264 with net orders at 215. |
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Post by philidor on Sept 7, 2017 9:25:41 GMT 1
It looks like with Frontier, they cancelled an A320neo and reordered it as there's no net change in their order and there was a cancellation for 1 A320neo. Did they cancel one order, or did they just reject a non-compliant aircraft ? In the second case, there is no cancellation, Airbus just finds another frame for them. The cancellation might be from some other customer. |
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Post by Jkkw on Sept 7, 2017 9:37:31 GMT 1
It looks like with Frontier, they cancelled an A320neo and reordered it as there's no net change in their order and there was a cancellation for 1 A320neo. Did they cancel one order, or did they just reject a non-compliant aircraft ? In the second case, there is no cancellation, Airbus just finds another frame for them. The cancellation might be from some other customer. I've gone through all orders for the A320neo on the spreadsheet and Frontier cancelling and reordering appears to be the most logical answer. An A320neo was cancelled this month and there were no reductions in A320neo orders from any customer (apart from IndiGo who converted 5 A320neos to 5 A321neos). There was however an order this month of 1 A320neo from Frontier yet their total number of A320neos ordered remains unchanged at 62. Unless Airbus made a few mistakes in updating the spreadsheet, I can't find another way of explaining it. As to why Frontier would do that, I have no idea. |
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Post by XWB on Sept 7, 2017 9:51:47 GMT 1
It looks like with Frontier, they cancelled an A320neo and reordered it as there's no net change in their order and there was a cancellation for 1 A320neo. Did they cancel one order, or did they just reject a non-compliant aircraft ? In the second case, there is no cancellation, Airbus just finds another frame for them. The cancellation might be from some other customer. That must have been MSN 7181 with the original Flo the Flamingo livery that was rejected by Frontier. |
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Post by peter on Sept 7, 2017 9:59:06 GMT 1
That must have been MSN 7181 with the original Flo the Flamingo livery that was rejected by Frontier. Whatever happened to it? |
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Post by XWB on Sept 7, 2017 10:09:17 GMT 1
That must have been MSN 7181 with the original Flo the Flamingo livery that was rejected by Frontier. Whatever happened to it? MSN 7181 got damaged by a hydraulic "explosion". Instead of repairing, Frontier decided to reject the aircraft. |
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