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Post by K on Aug 23, 2018 9:23:39 GMT 1
#331 103 MSN8273 GoAir VT-WBS [delivered 31-07-2018] / (P&W #142 033) should be WGS #340 112 MSN8107 China Eastern Airlines B-1033 [delivered 17-08-2018] / (CFM-Leap #197 077) has not been delivered, confirmed from the CES' system I corrected the registration on the Indigo frame. About the delivery of MSN8107, it was reported on more than one site, are you sure? If it's delivered, it should be in the airlines fleet system, but we failed to find it; I will also try to double check from Tianjin side. |
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Post by sciing on Aug 23, 2018 9:26:41 GMT 1
#331 103 MSN8273 GoAir VT-WBS [delivered 31-07-2018] / (P&W #142 033) should be WGS #340 112 MSN8107 China Eastern Airlines B-1033 [delivered 17-08-2018] / (CFM-Leap #197 077) has not been delivered, confirmed from the CES' system I corrected the registration on the Indigo frame. About the delivery of MSN8107, it was reported on more than one site, are you sure? We discussed it in the China Eastern Neo and the A330 TSN thread. Skyliner and FR24 mixed up the A320NEO B-1033 and the A330 B-300P. Later one was really delivered from TSN. a380.boards.net/thread/977/a330-completion-centre-tianjin?page=9a380.boards.net/thread/2077/china-eastern-airlines-a320neos?page=5FR24 corrected it now. If you check FR24, you will not find B-1033 anymore, but B-300P. |
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Post by mjoelnir on Aug 23, 2018 10:53:12 GMT 1
FR24 is often making mistakes. FR24 is hardly the ruling authority for registered frames. FR24 could be mistaken now, I do not say that they are. Where do you check, what Chinese frame is registered when with what number? |
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Post by mtrunz on Aug 23, 2018 12:37:32 GMT 1
There is no ruling authority in anything. Its always important to double check multiple sources, not just rely on one source. I have gotten used to now doing random checks when I update stuff. A community like this helps a lot too  |
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Post by mjoelnir on Aug 23, 2018 12:55:14 GMT 1
There is no ruling authority in anything. Its always important to double check multiple sources, not just rely on one source. I have gotten used to now doing random checks when I update stuff. A community like this helps a lot too The delivery of MSN8107 was declared by multiple sources. The only place I read about some confusion with a A330 is here on this site. It would be nice to get an independent source for that. It is of course always difficult, to show that something did not happen. |
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Post by peter on Aug 23, 2018 12:57:11 GMT 1
There is no ruling authority in anything. Its always important to double check multiple sources, not just rely on one source. I have gotten used to now doing random checks when I update stuff. A community like this helps a lot too Right. The so-called "B-1033" started off with a few flights between Beijing and Hongqiao. Double checking on FlightAware showed an A330 on those flights  |
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Post by sciing on Aug 23, 2018 14:57:46 GMT 1
The delivery of MSN8107 was declared by multiple sources. Which one? They are likely wrong. But maybe you share it for clarification! I guess many "information" is just guessing, so it is not unlikley that different sources do the same failures. No wonder, it is the only place where such strange details are shared and discussed in deep. Where else would you expect it? Please read the other linked threads before you answer! ca350 even post a picture of B-300P! |
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Post by mjoelnir on Aug 23, 2018 21:39:22 GMT 1
The delivery of MSN8107 was declared by multiple sources. Which one? They are likely wrong. But maybe you share it for clarification! I guess many "information" is just guessing, so it is not unlikley that different sources do the same failures. No wonder, it is the only place where such strange details are shared and discussed in deep. Where else would you expect it? Please read the other linked threads before you answer! ca350 even post a picture of B-300P! It was shown on xfw-spotter.blogspot.com/, of course skyliner and the flight on fr24. It can of course be that both the former trusted fr24, but usually the information on skyliner is long before the delivery flight happens and is shown on fr24. Often skyliner can be wrong with the date. Posting a picture of an A330 is hardly proof, that a delivery of a A320 did not happen. Yes i do believe you that there was a confusion between the delivery flight of an A320 with the delivery flight of an A330, but it would still be nice to know how this information came to be. |
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Post by ca350 on Aug 23, 2018 22:05:07 GMT 1
It was shown on xfw-spotter.blogspot.com/, of course skyliner and the flight on fr24. It can of course be that both the former trusted fr24, but usually the information on skyliner is long before the delivery flight happens and is shown on fr24. Often skyliner can be wrong with the date. Posting a picture of an A330 is hardly proof, that a delivery of a A320 did not happen. Yes i do believe you that there was a confusion between the delivery flight of an A320 with the delivery flight of an A330, but it would still be nice to know how this information came to be. First off, like what I mentioned before in TSN A320 FAL thread, xfw-spotter.blogspot.com is never a reliable source in terms of test flights and deliveries from TSN. Their poor accuracy about frame information doesn't deserve a spot on here. I hope we don't use this website as a "Source" for anything happening in TSN anymore. Then the reason I had this post a380.boards.net/post/116793/thread in the China Eastern A320neo thread was because I checked the FR24 replay for all the flights out of TSN on the day of Aug 17 and found only one delivery flight to PVG with the hex code 781462. With the photo evidence of B-300P I was able to conclude that delivery flight is indeed an A330, B-300P. If you want to prove a delivery flight DID happen. Go to FR24 and used their fantastic flight replay feature and post a link on here to prove to us that the delivery ACTUALLY happened instead of saying something like "according to multiple source". |
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Post by addasih on Aug 24, 2018 0:04:01 GMT 1
Team,
Let’s take easy please here since I see the discussion is heating up.
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