fly350
In Parts Built
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Post by fly350 on Mar 27, 2019 16:35:53 GMT 1
Delivered this month :
2x Qatar,China Eastern,Delta Airlines,Vietnam Airlines,Singapore Airlines,Cathay Pacific,Lufthansa,Latam
That's already 9 planes. Physically delivered which means: flew from TLS to the final buyer.
All the rest is *stories* going on behind the scenes/you can call it accountancy or politics.
= Things going in "on paper".
I live in the real world, with real planes really flying to the buyer, so my number total number for this
month is 9.
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Post by ff on Mar 27, 2019 17:59:28 GMT 1
Delivered this month : 2x Qatar,China Eastern,Delta Airlines,Vietnam Airlines,Singapore Airlines,Cathay Pacific,Lufthansa,Latam That's already 9 planes. Physically delivered which means: flew from TLS to the final buyer. All the rest is *** going on behind the scenes/you can call it accountancy or politics. = Things going in "on paper". I live in the real world, with real planes really flying to the buyer, so my number total number for this month is 9. Delivery flight doesn't mean they were delivered this month.
Whatever you like to call it, "Things going in on paper" means contractual delivery, which means final payment been made. So Airbus spreadsheet is the most accurate measure.
I really don't care when they actually fly away from TLS/XFW, as long as they've paid already they can store the frames in TLS/XFW for months or years. I believe Airbus share the same view.
That's the real world my friend, cash is the KING.
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Post by stealthmanbob on Mar 27, 2019 18:48:44 GMT 1
Delivered this month : 2x Qatar,China Eastern,Delta Airlines,Vietnam Airlines,Singapore Airlines,Cathay Pacific,Lufthansa,Latam That's already 9 planes. Physically delivered which means: flew from TLS to the final buyer. All the rest is bullshit going on behind the scenes/you can call it accountancy or politics. = Things going in "on paper". I live in the real world, with real planes really flying to the buyer, so my number total number for this month is 9. Delivery flight doesn't mean they were delivered this month.
Whatever you like to call it, "Things going in on paper" means contractual delivery, which means final payment been made. So Airbus spreadsheet is the most accurate measure.
I really don't care when they actually fly away from TLS/XFW, as long as they've paid already they can store the frames in TLS/XFW for months or years. I believe Airbus share the same view.
That's the real world my friend, cash is the KING.
Accounts care about the money, aviation enthusiasts care about when the frame is delivered and can actually go into service 😀 |
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Post by ff on Mar 27, 2019 19:16:39 GMT 1
We tolerant each other’s opinion, no need to unite our views.
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Post by stealthmanbob on Mar 27, 2019 19:37:42 GMT 1
We tolerant each other’s opinion, no need to unite our views. I don't understand "unite" ? Do you mean I am bringing you two together? |
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ghorn
Outfitting in Hamburg
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Post by ghorn on Mar 27, 2019 19:54:54 GMT 1
Happy to have two separate totals but after the March 1st mass departure and the HX warehouse we seem to have too many totals. Hopefully once we have the Q1 figures from Airbus we can go back to having just two totals.
Geoff
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fly350
In Parts Built
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Post by fly350 on Mar 28, 2019 0:18:30 GMT 1
And what if the frame burns down when still sitting in TLS ?
Will Airbus tell the client: sorry guys, you had to take it away earlier.
Make a new payment and we will make a new plane for you as we consider the destroyed plane as delivered.
Wake up out of your virtual world my friend.
Just nothing is delivered as long is it did not fly away.
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Post by ff on Mar 28, 2019 0:42:14 GMT 1
And what if the frame burns down when still sitting in TLS ? Will Airbus tell the client: sorry guys, you had to take it away earlier. Make a new payment and we will make a new plane for you as we consider the destroyed plane as delivered. Wake up out of your virtual world my friend. Just nothing is delivered as long is it did not fly away. That would be a simple insurance issue, once contractually delivered. That’s how people dealing with these things in real world. If it wasn’t contractually delivered, it will fall into Airbus’ insurance. Funny you ask that question, because that actually happened a few years back with an Etihad A346 during final test. Because it didn’t reach contractually delivered, it was an insurance write off, but on Airbus’ insurance, not Etihad. |
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Post by stealthmanbob on Mar 28, 2019 0:44:10 GMT 1
And what if the frame burns down when still sitting in TLS ? Will Airbus tell the client: sorry guys, you had to take it away earlier. Make a new payment and we will make a new plane for you as we consider the destroyed plane as delivered. Wake up out of your virtual world my friend. Just nothing is delivered as long is it did not fly away. I guess it would be insured by the owner? |
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philidor
in service - 6 years
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Post by philidor on Mar 28, 2019 10:17:40 GMT 1
I guess it would be insured by the owner? Which insurance picks up the bill depends on the nature of Airbus' responsability for customer aircraft sitting on its flightline. Is Airbus just providing a parking place (= the customer is in charge of its aircraft) or is it providing custody ? |
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