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Post by addasih on Oct 8, 2019 2:39:24 GMT 1
I believe it’s #3 actually. MSN285, MSN 308 and this one
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Post by peter on Oct 8, 2019 9:49:25 GMT 1
Meaning, we count it as delivered to Alafco#2?.. #3. Well actually #11  |
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Post by addasih on Oct 8, 2019 11:04:30 GMT 1
You know what I meant peter . |
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Post by peter on Oct 8, 2019 11:45:22 GMT 1
You know what I meant peter .  I wonder if ALAFCO is actively looking for a new customer for those 3. And they have one more coming (I guess msn338). |
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Post by FabienA380 on Oct 8, 2019 16:16:25 GMT 1
Ouch for some reason I missed that MSN285 was delivered..
I think we need a sub-category somewhere for frames that have been delivered but went into storage (Alafco, EY,..).
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Post by philidor on Oct 9, 2019 0:05:32 GMT 1
I think we need a sub-category somewhere for frames that have been delivered but went into storage (Alafco, EY,..). Well, we do have a special thread, but for some reason it leaves widebodies out. |
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Post by FabienA380 on Oct 9, 2019 3:02:07 GMT 1
In fact that's a thread for A320 Family frames, where we don't have a thread for each MSN, but here we do.....
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Post by ca350 on Oct 9, 2019 8:08:49 GMT 1
Ouch for some reason I missed that MSN285 was delivered.. I think we need a sub-category somewhere for frames that have been delivered but went into storage (Alafco, EY,..). But the problem is should we move the "delivered but stored" frames into the "A350 production - Frames Delivered" sub-board or not. I believe currently the standard is if the frame leaves TLS, it's moved to "frames delivered section". If not they stay in here (A350-900 sub-board). Also the Alafco frames and EY frames are different. The Alafco frames don't have a final operator found yet thus still staying at TLS however EY frames is delivered to the final user but put into storage by user so what should be the standard of the new category is another question. |
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Post by ff on Oct 9, 2019 9:17:26 GMT 1
Within the monthly O&D spreadsheet, Airbus is always particularly keen to display how many frames been delivered and how many in operation (Boeing doesn't).
So the question really is whether this board want to keep with Airbus tradition, and separate these two categories.
During any frame's 20-30 years life, there will always be storage time, maintenance down time, and/or in between operator/lessor. So EY frames are in those kind of "usual" down time (although a bit strange right at the beginning of their life). This could apply to a number of frames in Hong Kong Airlines as well, I've heard there are withdrawing a few frames at the moment.
The Alafco frames and (don't forget) the three frames stored in LDE with Xingxiang Leasing (MSN246, 251, 260) are in the same category - been delivered to the lessors, but no operator at the moment. I think they deserve a separate sub-category within the "A350 production - Frames Delivered" sub-board.
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Post by ghorn on Oct 9, 2019 13:17:21 GMT 1
But Airbus shows all delivered A350s as in operation with airlines, even those that are stored and/or owned by lessors.
Geoff
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