noistar
Final Assembly Line stage 2
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Post by noistar on Apr 10, 2013 16:36:50 GMT 1
I've been looking for answers to my questions. However, I can find no reference to why the QF2 & 4 frames were a tan, rather than green colour. Re the tails: Seems that there was a proposed livery change, so QF2,3,5,6 all had white tails. There seems to have been something special about MSN026 to do with it being the first frame with what is referred to as "wave 2" wiring, ie the fix to the original wiring problem. There also seems to be a confusing reference to this frame being 'out of sequence', although FAL rollout doesn't seem to support this. If true, perhaps QF4 followed QF1 and so had a painted tail, then spent longer in FAL to test the fix. My usual enthusiasm and ignorance I'm afraid. Does anybody have information of convoys for the 1st 6 QF frames which might shed some light on this? They were delayed after FAL and went into storage, that was when the tan colour was applied. They were green before. Thanks for that. It all makes sense now. All I need to do now is find some pictures of them in green, just out of curiosity. Google, here I come  |
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Post by FabienA380 on Apr 10, 2013 17:02:11 GMT 1
Which frames are you speaking about?.... The only 2 QF frames delayed and put into storage were MSN047 and MSN050.... As far as I can remember MSN047 was green with Qantas tail when landing in TLS (after storage), and MSN050 was green with white tail after storage.. Fabien  |
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Post by FabienA380 on Apr 10, 2013 17:05:50 GMT 1
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UK380
First Flight
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Post by UK380 on Apr 13, 2013 14:43:03 GMT 1
I think the TAN primer is a long term storage primer... I might be wrong
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mjoelnir
in service - 2 years
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Post by mjoelnir on Apr 13, 2013 15:06:08 GMT 1
I think the TAN primer is a long term storage primer... I might be wrong You see the green under the tan. I still say MSN026 was stored. It is difficult to find the information that long ago. |
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Post by FabienA380 on Apr 14, 2013 2:30:27 GMT 1
Actually I have never seen any picture of an earlier MSN026, has there been any?..... (in green for example?...) Fabien |
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tomparis1
Final Assembly Line stage 2
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Post by tomparis1 on Apr 15, 2013 9:27:19 GMT 1
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Post by everton44 on May 10, 2013 2:53:34 GMT 1
The tan color was storage primer, as they had to sit on the flightline waiting on outfitting. That was a major bottleneck at first, as the planes had to be rewired during outfitting due to early issues with the coordination of design softwares between factories. This lead to wiring harnesses being too short, and they had to be fixed by hand. The early Qantas frames had the old logo and had to be repainted after outfitting. Several frames had withe tails, as there were reports of a new paint process being installed at the tail factory, which led to either plain white tails, or tails in primer only.
The process has come a long way. Some really early frames were convoyed with wood where doors were supposed to be and other odd items. Nice to have been watching it the whole time and see where it has come.
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Post by everton44 on May 10, 2013 2:55:19 GMT 1
Actually I have never seen any picture of an earlier MSN026, has there been any?..... (in green for example?...) Fabien I never saw MSN026 in anything but storage primer. |
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Post by everton44 on May 10, 2013 2:58:33 GMT 1
I think the TAN primer is a long term storage primer... I might be wrong You see the green under the tan. I still say MSN026 was stored. It is difficult to find the information that long ago. MSN026 took a long time to assemble as it was a considered a Head of Version of sorts due to it's different wiring. It went through a lot of testing etc, which kept it at TLS for quite a while, which necessitated the tan primer. After it was ready, it had to wait on an outfittng slot. Outfitting was worse at first, as there were only 5 outfitting stations at XFW in the early days. |
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