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Post by Jkkw on Apr 2, 2014 6:57:01 GMT 1
I'm wondering if Airbus has contracts with the airlines, in the order of (A380-)airline deliveries... Meaning, could MSN152(OZ) ever be delivered before MSN137(QR), if ready before, or by contract with Airbus QR 'HAS' (now) to be the 11th A380-operator?... Fabien  I doubt that is in the contract, they'll have when the aircraft should be delivered by but probably not 'you'll be the 'n'th airline to receive the aircraft' unless n=1 (launch customer). Also considering that Qatar delayed the delivery, if they did have that in the contract, it would probably now be void (and I also wonder if Qatar had to pay a penalty to delay the frames since their aircraft were already in production). Saying that, when dealing with Akbar, anything can happen. |
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Post by s543 on Apr 2, 2014 8:13:05 GMT 1
I can hardly imagine QR would pay any penalty - being launch customer for A350 and overall HUGE customer.
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Post by philidor on Apr 2, 2014 10:45:47 GMT 1
I'm wondering if Airbus has contracts with the airlines, in the order of (A380-)airline deliveries... Meaning, could MSN152(OZ) ever be delivered before MSN137(QR), if ready before, or by contract with Airbus QR 'HAS' (now) to be the 11th A380-operator?... Fabien Airframers' delivery schedules are frequently updated to meet customers' requests. Minor adjustments are not a problem, and can be agreed informally at short notice. A major postponement with industrial or financial implications would of course be a different matter. When QR asks to push A380 deliveries to the right, for Airbus it's just a deferred revenue. We don't have to know whether Airbus asked for some compensation, or not. That's everyday business life. I don't think any delivery rank is agreed by contract, except for launch customer agreements. Both the airframer and the airline only have to meet the agreed delivery date. EDIT : price escalation clauses in sales contracts may be triggered by a delayed delivery. |
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Post by xxxx on Apr 2, 2014 23:22:06 GMT 1
I can hardly imagine QR would pay any penalty - being launch customer for A350 and overall HUGE customer. I guess the penalties for Airbus could be reduced (I recall that the delivery was first postponed by Airbus and then by QR), as QR could have to pay Airbus some kind of rent for the ground in XFW. |
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Post by danteg on Apr 3, 2014 2:58:22 GMT 1
Just changing the topic a bit, with the delivery of Lufthansa's 11th A380 that marks the first time that at least one A380 has been delivered in each of the first 4 months of the calendar year.
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Post by FabienA380 on Apr 4, 2014 3:59:16 GMT 1
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Post by mjoelnir on Apr 4, 2014 14:05:23 GMT 1
According to Airbus MSN146 was delivered in March, record 6 frames in the first quarter.
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Post by FabienA380 on Apr 4, 2014 17:11:32 GMT 1
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Post by s543 on Apr 5, 2014 15:29:38 GMT 1
We should remember that this MARCH with 4 deliveries was actually highest deliveries ever in first 3/4 of the year. If I am correct the highest ever and only twice 5 deliveries were in OCTOBER+DECEMBER 12, 4 were in DEC-11, OCT+NOV-13. |
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Post by mjoelnir on Apr 8, 2014 21:47:50 GMT 1
We could see 15+ deliveries in the first half of the year.
6 are already delivered in the first quarter.
What do we expect to be delivered until the end of June?
1 LH MSN149 in April
3 EK 1 in Aril, Mai and June each, MSN150, 153 and 154
1 AF MSN117 before end of June
1 BA MSN148 is eminent, inside a month
3 QR MSN137, 143 and 145, only If Qatar delays again will they be later
Including OZ MSN152 or perhaps KE MSN130 that would make 16 perhaps even 17.
Even if not all off the above happens, there will be record deliveries in the first half of 2014.
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