noistar
Final Assembly Line stage 2
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Post by noistar on Nov 26, 2014 2:31:16 GMT 1
My idea on this is that second-hand A380s would be somewhat interesting price-wise, I would then imagine that many airlines could be interested in acquire some, leading to think that they might not be too picky if the frame doesn't have the engine that they would have liked them to have?.... I might be wrong. You are right, second-hand frames might be a real bargain, especially if leased ! The BC frames are different, as Airbus obviously needs to sell them as new. They 'll eventually be sold, but we'll never know at what price ... I would like to point out that Skymark has a huge stake resting on that sale. To settle their dispute with Airbus, they will have to compensate Airbus for all losses resulting from the breach of contract, especially the differences between agreed contract prices and actual selling prices (if the latter are lower), so Skymark certainly hopes Airbus will get a very good price ... Of course, Airbus will have to show that they did their best efforts to re-market the aircraft. And, of course, we've got to remember that the Skymark frames are just airworthy shells. Perhaps the supplied 'unsafe' internal fittings can be suitably modified and actually used  The leasing company with new frames on order might want them, although what's their requirement time-wise? Presumably timing is less problematic if they haven't got a specific airline/route requirement. Would they need to have identical internal specs and I'm not even going to think of motive power! |
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Post by peter on Nov 26, 2014 6:21:36 GMT 1
Right, but the changes were done on DC8, on 707 owned by ARMY/NAVY (over 500 pcs), but those were planes almost without electronics, I imagine that all the electronics around the engines is completely different and to change that... + all that corresponds with it ! I believe that mechanically it would not be such a big deal, but all together - forget it. Should not be too hard. Wiring for RR and EA engines is the same. The engine interface for both are from the same supplier, Meggitt Sensing Sysytems. It's the electronics that makes it easier.... And of course Airbus has experience with msn's 004 & 007 with these conversions  |
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philidor
in service - 6 years
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Post by philidor on Nov 26, 2014 9:11:39 GMT 1
The leasing company with new frames on order might want them, although what's their requirement time-wise? Presumably timing is less problematic if they haven't got a specific airline/route requirement. Would they need to have identical internal specs and I'm not even going to think of motive power! Whatever Amedeo has been saying (a lot of rubbish !), specs are the operator's choice. Consequently, a lessor cannot specify a detailed configuration without the future lessee's agreement. Lessors' orders set a price reference and delivery slots, but are not detailed enough to actually build the frames. Details are provided, with input from the lessee, after a lease agreement has been signed. As the future operator, the lessee often discusses the specs with the manufacturer on behalf of the lessor. |
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Post by FabienA380 on Dec 8, 2014 2:46:31 GMT 1
MSN162 seems not to be on the FL anymore, could it have gone in the FL hangar where MSN167 just came out from?
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Post by FabienA380 on Dec 11, 2014 21:59:58 GMT 1
MSN162 seems not to be on the FL anymore, could it have gone in the FL hangar where MSN167 just came out from? I looks like MSN162 is now back on the FL |
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Post by everton44 on Dec 11, 2014 22:17:51 GMT 1
:DFunny!
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Post by FabienA380 on Dec 12, 2014 7:07:23 GMT 1
(I got it now....  ) I wasn't that much of a joke, we can glance MSN162 on the left between MSN180 (EY's Tail) and what I think is MSN167 (green fuselage)  |
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Post by Jkkw on Dec 13, 2014 7:39:05 GMT 1
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Post by Jkkw on Dec 18, 2014 15:47:25 GMT 1
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XWB
in service - 11 years
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Post by XWB on Dec 18, 2014 16:29:33 GMT 1
Long term storage ..
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