Baroque
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Post by Baroque on Apr 4, 2018 17:04:58 GMT 1
But one could assume Boeing fighting more desperate for the deals in the rest of the world and Airbus concentrating more on China. Airbus would feel less pressure to go low on price. While there's a potential for better rewards as you've put, there's some risk too in building a bigger backlog with China at the expense of other parts of the world. It would give the Chinese government a bigger leeway in dictating terms regarding various geopolitical issues by essentially holding this backlog 'hostage'. We've seen it in the past, and we see it even today with the certification hold up for the new aircraft. It's a rather costly affair for Airbus when that happens. ----- On the tariffs, I still say it is a symbolic measure above everything. As the government is deeply involved in the aircraft procurement for Chinese airlines, they would go straight to Airbus for future orders if they wanted to punish the U.S. regardless of the decision to impose a tariff or not.
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Post by kevin5345179 on Apr 4, 2018 17:31:35 GMT 1
I would assume not as much as they are in Airbus product IIRC, China wants to be in 787, but US said no ......
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Post by Jkkw on Apr 5, 2018 2:47:01 GMT 1
Why onlt 737NG? I would assume 737-8 should also be affected. If the cutoff is empty weight, I assume the MEW of the 737-8 to be lower than 45,000 kg. OEW is only 45,070. I'm not too sure myself, I'm just going off the media reports which all tend to say the MAX will likely not be effected (Except for the -7) On that note, here's Leeham's article on the matter leehamnews.com/2018/04/04/china-proposes-tariffs-on-boeing-planes-but-its-less-than-meets-the-eye/If it's only the 737NG that will be effected I would assume not as much as they are in Airbus product IIRC, China wants to be in 787, but US said no ...... Thanks for the response!
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Post by philidor on Apr 7, 2018 12:24:25 GMT 1
In a developing trade war, such steps are no more than attempts at dissuasion. They mean 'we are ready to reply to any attack - so far, what you have done is of little importance, so we are replying in kind. Be aware, however, that retaliation is part of the game'.
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Post by s543 on Apr 7, 2018 13:16:33 GMT 1
The question which is important: "How far are the combatants ready to go ?"
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Post by philidor on Apr 7, 2018 13:41:18 GMT 1
The question which is important: "How far are the combatants ready to go ?" As always, the US will not go very far : all major US companies need trade (whether imports ot exports or both) with China.
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Post by kevin5345179 on Apr 7, 2018 17:57:02 GMT 1
the funny part is there is so much that China can match for retaliation given the import from US is less than export lol
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Post by kevin5345179 on Sept 17, 2018 21:44:50 GMT 1
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Post by someone on Sept 17, 2018 22:03:52 GMT 1
The irony having the surname Toulouse when working for Boeing 😝
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Baroque
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Post by Baroque on Sept 17, 2018 22:23:00 GMT 1
Yeah, imagine a remark like "News from Toulouse is that Boeing is winning".
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