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Post by ff on Feb 11, 2019 11:16:48 GMT 1
I believe there is only one lessor involved, but once a cheaper rate been agreed on the first two frames due to return, nothing stop them continue press for cheaper rate on the following three. It’s all about negotiation tactics. F-HPJB / D / E / G / J are on lease from Dr.Peters Group. F-HPJA was sold and leased back from Fuyo General Lease (FGL) May 2012. Thanks, so how did they manage the split? Perhaps secured low rate on B/D and still negotiating G/J? Any airlines would do that negotiation, will they? The conversation starts with like this: “Lease to me on a huge reduction of rate, otherwise you won’t find another airlines to take them on. It’s your call...”
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Post by philidor on Feb 11, 2019 11:21:39 GMT 1
Perhaps secured low rate on B/D and still negotiating G/J? Possibly, or AF had a degree of flexibility, but would not in any case keep more than seven frames. EDIT : AF's first frame (MSN 33) was convoyed to TLS in December 2007, delivered in March 2009. Convoy date of the second frame (MSN 40) is missing from our record, but it was delivered in March 2009. Could these early frames have been rejected as bad performers ?
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Post by peter on Feb 11, 2019 11:56:13 GMT 1
EDIT : AF's first frame (MSN 33) was convoyed to TLS in December 2007, delivered in March 2009. No it was not. It was 30th Oct 2009, the 20th delivered. EDIT : Convoy date of the second frame (MSN 40) is missing from our record, but it was delivered in March 2009. No it was not. It was 10th Feb 2010, the 26th delivered. It's all in the first posts for both frames.
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Post by philidor on Feb 11, 2019 13:23:35 GMT 1
OK, you are right. I was lazy - I went from memory, after checking the dates a week ago. Still, the frames are early enough to be possible low performers.
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Post by a380fanclub on Feb 20, 2019 7:54:15 GMT 1
Confirmation at today’s results presentation: fleet to be reduced to 7, not 5:
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Post by a380fanclub on May 10, 2019 0:55:03 GMT 1
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Post by mtrunz on May 10, 2019 1:58:08 GMT 1
I had no idea that such report even existed for finding parts. I don't think that ever crossed my mind when the event happened. Thanks for sharing!
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Post by philidor on May 10, 2019 15:18:09 GMT 1
Unfortunately, the only parts that have been recovered so far are those that were spotted immediately after the accident. Airborne and ground-based radar operations haven't detected any engine debris.
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Post by FabienA380 on Jul 14, 2019 9:13:19 GMT 1
www.latribune.fr/entreprises-finance/services/transport-logistique/air-france-travaille-sur-une-commande-d-avions-fin-juillet-823498.htmlIn French and for Air France, there might be an order for 50 A220s / 50 A320neos coming by the end of July. Ben Smith also wants to get rid of the A380 totally, by 2023/2024. To replace them Air France is having a look at some more B787s or A330neos, or A350-1000s but it is said that the price is too high. Also said some tight interest for the A321XLR but not for the short term. For Transavia the 737MAX should be the one preferred, once the crisis is over. Article also mentions that 'every week at least one of the A380 is down for maintenance issue'.
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Post by serenity on Jul 30, 2019 20:18:52 GMT 1
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