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Post by Jkkw on Jan 13, 2016 6:02:14 GMT 1
Alternately I'm thinking that perhaps the initial engineering plan(s) for a potential A380neo have already been completed and they have a pretty good idea of what options they can take and the pros and cons of each and so are at the stage of evaluating the business case for the aircraft. Meanwhile they might be at the initial stages of evaluating an A350 stretch where they're still looking at the engineering details and feasibility of it (whilst still evaluating the business case) and hence why they might require more engineering resources. Anyway, this is just a theory and I could be completely wrong.
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Post by airboche on Jan 13, 2016 10:43:21 GMT 1
Some "A350-1100" will have a huge capacity but not that much range. One would need one or two customers with that very special high capacity need. Let's say from Japan, India, Indonesia and such. It would be an "exot" version and something like the opposite of an ULR-airplane. Not sure myself if it is needed. Technically it is possible, yes.
OT: The A380neo will have to wait for the 777X firm configuration. After that is fixed Airbus can decide how to match it's seatcost by filling in the required seatnumber into the A380neo. Herringbone Business Class above and ten-abreast Eco below.
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Post by s543 on Jan 13, 2016 11:09:36 GMT 1
Some "A350-1100" will have a huge capacity but not that much range. One would need one or two customers with that very special high capacity need. Let's say from Japan, India, Indonesia and such. It would be an "exot" version and something like the opposite of an ULR-airplane. Not sure myself if it is needed. Technically it is possible, yes. Why it could not have the range ? It is just a question of decision how much range and how much belly cargo. There is for sure space enough for more fuel. |
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Post by airboche on Jan 13, 2016 11:13:08 GMT 1
Could the gear support all that mass without major changes that might affect the wing as well? How about the wing itself and it's high lift system? Certainly it could be adopted but that "super-A350" might be costly, late and seriously eat into the A380 market.
Could RR deliver the required engines so fast, especially if a "-1100" with both size and range should be needed? To me the whole sizing of the A350 family looks to be very much linked to RR and their available engine sizes.
Looking back: Like Boeing with the 787-3 before Airbus with the A350-800 aimed slightly too low when launching it and forgot the upper end.
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Post by philidor on Jan 14, 2016 14:46:43 GMT 1
We don't know what Airbus is considering :
- a simple stretch, implying a shorter range than other family members due to additional weight;
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- a stretch + increased thrust (can the present -1000 engine deliver it ?) + possible aero tweaks, implying the same range as other family members in spite of additional weight, a likely increase in fuel burn, a possible loss of commonality with A359s/A35Ks, and higher development costs.
In both cases, but even more in the second one, the MLG may, or may not, have to be strenthened.
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Post by bmw801 on Feb 16, 2016 15:57:25 GMT 1
From nasdaq.comJohn Leahy on a possible bigger A350 variant: |
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Post by Baroque on Feb 16, 2016 17:14:42 GMT 1
I interpret from Leahy's words that there are a few key customers lining up to sign for some 777-9Xs later this year but could go with the larger A350 if Airbus launched it sooner.
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Post by kronus on Feb 17, 2016 15:55:11 GMT 1
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Post by kronus on Feb 17, 2016 18:26:39 GMT 1
My own potential customers list of a350-1100 orders (who are interested in order 777-9X):
Singapore Airlines 40 orders (replace 27 777-300(ER) and for some routes expansion)
British Airways 25 orders (replace the remaining 747-400)
Lufthansa 14 orders (34 commitments for 777-9X minus 20 ordered 777-9X so far)
Qatar Airways 40 orders (number of options for 777X)
Emirates 50 orders (number of options for 777X)
Cathay Pacific 32 orders (replacement for 53 777-300(ER) alongside with 21 777-9X)
Etihad Airways 12 orders (number of options for 777X)
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Post by s543 on Feb 17, 2016 19:01:42 GMT 1
My own potential customers list of a350-1100 orders (who are interested in order 777-9X): Singapore Airlines 40 orders (replace 27 777-300(ER) and for some routes expansion) British Airways 25 orders (replace the remaining 747-400) Lufthansa 14 orders (34 commitments for 777-9X minus 20 ordered 777-9X so far) Qatar Airways 40 orders (number of options for 777X) Emirates 50 orders (number of options for 777X) Cathay Pacific 32 orders (replacement for 53 777-300(ER) alongside with 21 777-9X) Your very optimistic prediction is 200 pcs. Is it enough ? |
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