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Post by marlibu on Jun 3, 2016 17:44:22 GMT 1
I wonder if Airbus can sell these to other customers?
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Post by s543 on Jun 3, 2016 20:25:13 GMT 1
I wonder if Airbus can sell these to other customers? Easily.... |
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Post by addasih on Jun 3, 2016 21:51:12 GMT 1
Check out @r_Wall's Tweet:
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Post by stealthmanbob on Jun 3, 2016 21:57:42 GMT 1
Check out @r_Wall's Tweet: There seems to be a problem in some of the translation of the interviews, they have walked away from accepting delivery, not cancelled an order for a frame. They desperately want them, but only when they work OK. |
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Post by philidor on Jun 4, 2016 0:26:32 GMT 1
In principle, a firm refusal to take delivery of an aircraft amounts to an order cancellation. Airbus is not going to build another aircraft for them, so either they take this one or they are receiving one plane less than initially intended.
I don't think however think that this actually is a firm refusal : when the aircraft is fitted with compliant engines, they are going to take it.
Altogether, this diatribe sounds unrealistic to me. If AAB is in a hurry to receive his aircraft, as he claims, his threats to cancel his orders lack credibility. All he can get is what he claims he does not want - compensation !
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Post by stealthmanbob on Jun 4, 2016 1:03:17 GMT 1
In principle, a firm refusal to take delivery of an aircraft amounts to an order cancellation. Airbus is not going to build another aircraft for them, so either they take this one or they are receiving one plane less than initially intended. I don't think however think that this actually is a firm refusal : when the aircraft is fitted with compliant engines, they are going to take it. Altogether, this diatribe sounds unrealistic to me. If AAB is in a hurry to receive his aircraft, as he claims, his threats to cancel his orders lack credibility. All he can get is what he claims he does not want - compensation ! There are another three A320neos for Qatar parked up as well, plus Parts for an A380 and also some A350s, so AB do keep building frames for them ? |
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Post by s543 on Jun 4, 2016 16:29:50 GMT 1
This all seems to me for upteens time Uturn-Al.  Unsurprisingly there are no such a problems with any other airline. I do believe all this is his personal trait. He thinks of himself as something better than anyone else. OK there are problems with the new GTF engine - anybody with some technical sense can understand that. Everybody knows that such a complicated new system must have some teething problems. Everybody understands that there is will and a lot of smart and diligent people working on the solution. The problem is probably not that terrible if LH can have 4x short EU rounds and IndiGo 2-3 considerably longer ones. OK they have to wait 3 minutes - and what happens. We all know that three minutes in air transportation does not play any role to mention. So to me all this seems as his personal trait or his derogation of the know-how of those "dummy" engineers working on the plane. Or some better explanation ? |
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Post by s543 on Jun 4, 2016 16:36:39 GMT 1
One more comment: According to: www.wsj.com/articles/qatar-airways-walks-away-from-airbus-a320neo-deal-over-delays-1464954847"Mr. Al Baker also said he wouldn’t be seeking a seat on the board of International Consolidated Airlines Group SA. Qatar Airways, already the largest shareholder in the British Airways parent, recently boosted its stake in IAG to just above 15%. However, Mr. Al Baker says he has confidence in the current board, so sees no need to seek a board seat." Which is probably a good news for IAG and aviation world as is  |
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Post by stealthmanbob on Jun 4, 2016 16:47:12 GMT 1
One more comment: According to: www.wsj.com/articles/qatar-airways-walks-away-from-airbus-a320neo-deal-over-delays-1464954847"Mr. Al Baker also said he wouldn’t be seeking a seat on the board of International Consolidated Airlines Group SA. Qatar Airways, already the largest shareholder in the British Airways parent, recently boosted its stake in IAG to just above 15%. However, Mr. Al Baker says he has confidence in the current board, so sees no need to seek a board seat." Which is probably a good news for IAG and aviation world as is Good point, we don't want him inspecting all new aircraft for BA, Aer Lingus, Iberia, Veuling ..... |
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Post by limoncello on Jun 7, 2016 17:16:39 GMT 1
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