XWB
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Post by XWB on Apr 21, 2014 21:47:50 GMT 1
How weird to operate the A380 on such short leg. I have to disagree. It is great to see the versatility of the A380 showing its face. If a large amount of humans need moving then the A380 is the answer. Long or short haul! Nothing wrong with flying the A380 on short-haul routes, the problem is the cabin configuration: 1. The A380 is a heavy aircraft with a high trip cost 2. Ticket prices for such a short route can never be high enough to cover the trip cost 3. Usually first class seats are empty on such flights, resulting in further losses China Southern made huge losses due to similar reasons, i.e. you fly an aircraft with a cabin configuration for international long-haul flights on short domestic/regional hops. Maybe I'm wrong about Dubai - Kuwait. If so, it would be an exception. An A380 with an two-class cabin configuration with over 600 seats for domestic usage might work, the huge amount of seats would cover the trip cost. |
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philidor
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Post by philidor on Apr 21, 2014 22:16:40 GMT 1
Such a short flight suggests that EK intends to use an aircraft that was sitting idle between two long haul trips. If you factor in that the service helps to pay for the aircraft cost of possession, EK's move looks quite consistent. Lots of Asian airlines abuse their widebodies to the same purpose.
Additionally, EK uses its flagship to court a premium customer base, and to feed its longhaul network from Dubai. Altogether, this is an interesting initiative.
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XWB
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Post by XWB on Apr 21, 2014 22:19:31 GMT 1
Such a short flight suggests that EK intends to use an aircraft that was sitting idle between two long haul trips. That's another possibility, I agree. |
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Post by philidor on Apr 21, 2014 22:49:28 GMT 1
I wonder whether using leased aircraft encourages "abusing" widebodies : additional cycles may strain the airframe (the A380 MLG has not been designed to perform several cycles a day) but possible consequences may be seen only after the frame has been returned to the lessor. Unless of course EK's lease contract with Doric has been specifically fine-tuned (unlikely)...
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XWB
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Post by XWB on Apr 21, 2014 22:58:01 GMT 1
Unless we can see the contract, I'm afraid we will never know.
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Post by FabienA380 on Apr 22, 2014 1:43:01 GMT 1
Indeed in fact they counted the 'routes', including MEL-AKL, SYD-AKL, BNE-AKL and BKK-HKG... making 28! Fabien  |
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Post by addasih on Apr 22, 2014 18:05:06 GMT 1
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Post by danteg on May 7, 2014 14:04:29 GMT 1
Emirates is now planning to commence A380 flights to Perth (Australia) in July this year but is yet to be confirmed. Source: www.aviationwa.org.au/ |
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Post by addasih on May 7, 2014 17:55:15 GMT 1
That means for sure Jkkw is moving to Perth |
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Post by FabienA380 on May 8, 2014 4:39:32 GMT 1
Great news but surprised DFW made it before IAH. Does anyone know why? To be able to round the world in just 2 stops within the same alliance? (DFW-DXB-SYD-DFW) (edit)(how about QF to announce the A380 on SYD-DFW, to make it all-A380?...) Fabien Looks like I was a little right in there, and just randomly(?!) QF A380 is starting 2 days before EK A380 is starting.......................... |
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