mfranjic
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Post by mfranjic on Nov 9, 2016 12:58:10 GMT 1
*** Updated delivery list [ Reply # 8 / Page 1 or click on  ] of the  A320N aircraft with the: ● Airbus A320-271N, MSN 7053, 6E # 11, reg. VT-ITM, delivered on 07. Nov 2016 ● Airbus A320-271N, MSN 7124, KC # 1, reg. P4-KBH, delivered on 08. Nov 2016 On the  (click on the image below) IndiGo Airlines´ 11th Airbus A320-271N, MSN 7053, reg. VT-ITM (test reg. F-WWDN) with the cabin configuration Y180 and powered by two  PW1127G-JM geared turbofans (fan diameter: 2.057,4 mm / 81,0 in; eng. architecture: F]G[3LPC-8HPC ^ 2HPT-3LPT), each 120,43 kN / 12.280 kgf / 27.075 lbf. The aircraft first flew on 22. Sep 2016. Flying on the route TLS- DEL (FLT VTITM), it was delivered to the customer on 07. Nov 2016.
Air Astana´s 1st Airbus A320-271N, MSN 7124, reg. P4-KBH (test reg. F-WWBM) with the cabin configuration C16 Y132 and powered by two PW1127G-JM geared turbofans (fan diameter: 2.057,4 mm / 81,0 in; eng. architecture: F]G[3LPC-8HPC ^ 2HPT-3LPT), each 120,43 kN / 12.280 kgf / 27.075 lbf. The aircraft first flew on 29. Sep 2016. Flying on the route TLS - ALA (FLT KC1393), it was delivered to the customer on 08. Nov 2016.
Including those two deliveries, 35 A320neo aircraft have been delivered so far. ..... Air Astana´s Airbus A320-271N, reg. P4-KBH - delivery flight: (click on the image) Mario |
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Post by airboche on Nov 9, 2016 17:03:12 GMT 1
I wonder what all those neo engine delays cost as deliveries and handover payments get delayed as well and how they mix in those aircraft during the next year?
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mjoelnir
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Post by mjoelnir on Nov 10, 2016 22:58:55 GMT 1
I wonder what all those neo engine delays cost as deliveries and handover payments get delayed as well and how they mix in those aircraft during the next year? Airbus has moved up ceo deliveries, so A320 series numbers will hit a record this year, not far away from projected numbers. I do not think it will hit cash flow to badly. I assume, that on a new bird like the neo, Airbus has some leeway regarding delivery in the contracts. I assume that the delay being clearly engines, the engine supplier, perhaps suppliers, share in the cost of those delays. There will be of course some financial costs for Airbus resulting from those delays. I do not think Airbus has difficulties to slot in the delayed frames next year. Airbus has some of the delayed frames on stock waiting for engines and has pulled some ceo forward, that must have opened some holes in the planed production, that Airbus should be able to slot delayed frames into. The worst problem next year will be further engine shortages, rather increasing the number of delayed neos than allowing Airbus to catch up. |
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philidor
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Post by philidor on Nov 10, 2016 23:36:52 GMT 1
The worst problem next year will be further engine shortages, rather increasing the number of delayed neos than allowing Airbus to catch up. Ramp up issues are not going away, but there is no reason to believe they could worsen. On the contrary, the situation should improve before year-end. |
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mjoelnir
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Post by mjoelnir on Nov 11, 2016 5:32:15 GMT 1
The worst problem next year will be further engine shortages, rather increasing the number of delayed neos than allowing Airbus to catch up. Ramp up issues are not going away, but there is no reason to believe they could worsen. On the contrary, the situation should improve before year-end. P&W has signalled a 50 engines shortfall for next year. That is instead of delivering more engines to compensate for the shortfall this year. A minus of 50 engines will not only hit Airbus, but mainly them, that could mean 15 to 20 additional frames delayed to add to the current delays. To add to the troubles, IMO CFM is ramping slow too. To talk about something nicer, do not MSN7011 and 7172 have flown the nest, time to add them to the first post? A "flood" off GTF birds this days |
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philidor
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Post by philidor on Nov 11, 2016 10:14:39 GMT 1
P&W has signalled a 50 engines shortfall for next year. That is instead of delivering more engines to compensate for the shortfall this year. As I understand it, the 2017 50 engines shortfall is a comparison with previously projected numbers, not with 2016 delivery numbers. If that is correct, then P&W is behind plan but is ramping up, as in 2016. |
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XWB
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Post by XWB on Nov 11, 2016 10:18:32 GMT 1
The shortfall will continue in 2017.
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philidor
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Post by philidor on Nov 11, 2016 10:22:33 GMT 1
The shortfall will continue in 2017. I intended to write 2017, and edited my post. |
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cck
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Post by cck on Nov 11, 2016 14:36:39 GMT 1
If google translate it correctly for me, seem like P&W ramping up is not only slower this and next year, but even years after it? "Production will also accelerate more slowly than planned and contractually agreed in 2017 and in subsequent years." Original in German: www.aero.de/news-25385/Leasingfirmen-warten-auf-A320neo.htmlNo wonder AirAsia said they are in good position to ask AB to bring forward their CFM-engined A320neo deliveries in 2017 from original 10 to possibly more than 20. |
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XWB
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Post by XWB on Nov 11, 2016 14:39:08 GMT 1
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