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Post by kronus on Apr 15, 2019 16:06:55 GMT 1
Sorry, I can't find the wording on page 40 saying VS needs additional orders for A35X. Can you copy them over?
Without the RR engine issue (assuming by 2021 this would be resolved), to maintain the current network, VS only need 40-42 aircraft (they managed with 37-38 only 2/3 years ago), not 45 as currently they have.
So replacing 8 B744 and 6 A346, 12 A35X would be enough.
Don't forget, VS still has one optional lease with ALC for an A35X in 2022, plus MSN71 (due in 2019/20), and 4 options on B789.
In my opinion, that is plenty for the current slots mainly in LHR, even if those 4 A332 leave the fleet by then (and without converting the 4 options on B789), unless they are going to expending rapidly in LGW and MAN which looks very unlikely.
"By 2021, all Virgin Atlantic aircraft will be twin engine, saving fuel,increasing carbon efficiency, reducing noise and enabling us to become even more sustainable in our operations."
To replace 6 A340-600 and 8 747-400 until 2021 Virgin needs more than actually has orders for a350-1000 (12) or extend lease of 4 a330-200. |
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Post by ff on Apr 15, 2019 16:33:14 GMT 1
Sorry, I can't find the wording on page 40 saying VS needs additional orders for A35X. Can you copy them over?
Without the RR engine issue (assuming by 2021 this would be resolved), to maintain the current network, VS only need 40-42 aircraft (they managed with 37-38 only 2/3 years ago), not 45 as currently they have.
So replacing 8 B744 and 6 A346, 12 A35X would be enough.
Don't forget, VS still has one optional lease with ALC for an A35X in 2022, plus MSN71 (due in 2019/20), and 4 options on B789.
In my opinion, that is plenty for the current slots mainly in LHR, even if those 4 A332 leave the fleet by then (and without converting the 4 options on B789), unless they are going to expending rapidly in LGW and MAN which looks very unlikely.
"By 2021, all Virgin Atlantic aircraft will be twin engine, saving fuel,increasing carbon efficiency, reducing noise and enabling us to become even more sustainable in our operations."
To replace 6 A340-600 and 8 747-400 until 2021 Virgin needs more than actually has orders for a350-1000 (12) or extend lease of 4 a330-200. Thanks, we will have to agree to disagree.
I've stated the reasons above, with these newer aircraft, we would expect the usage of these A35Xs more than the B744s and A346s are currently doing. So 12 A35X plus MSN71 and one possible additional lease, should be more than sufficient to cover them.
The 4 A332 are here to cover the B789 RR engine issue, VS didn't need all four but leased them for additional cover hence the actual capacity (ASK) did not change significantly since 2016 when the fleet was much smaller (only 40 or less if my memory is correct). Once the RR problem resolved, VS can release these A332s without adding any capacity.
Can't remember whether I've mentioned before, I am a VS Gold card holder for many years, and closely monitoring their fleet for the past 15 years.
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Post by bmw801 on May 29, 2019 20:07:03 GMT 1
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Post by marlibu on May 29, 2019 23:56:40 GMT 1
if i understand that article, MSN 298 will sit idly by until MSN 274 gets its engines, do all the necessary flight testing , then delivered. ad the fist one gets delivered in August. ok.. sounds like a plan...
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Post by kevin5345179 on Aug 1, 2019 22:39:55 GMT 1
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Post by marlibu on Aug 5, 2019 15:19:15 GMT 1
Read an article on flightglobal, which says Virgin will start flying to JFK on Sept 10th. Yet, none of their A350 has done a CAF. Are their crews sufficiently skilled that training flights will not be needed prior to their transatlantic service? I am truly Intrigued about their deliver process.
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Post by ff on Aug 5, 2019 17:04:05 GMT 1
Read an article on flightglobal, which says Virgin will start flying to JFK on Sept 10th. Yet, none of their A350 has done a CAF. Are their crews sufficiently skilled that training flights will not be needed prior to their transatlantic service? I am truly Intrigued about their deliver process. Three weeks should be sufficient for cabin crews who normally operates A332/333 and A346 be familiar with A350 operation.
For pilots, I believe VS has agreements with DL and AY, to be trained on their A350s.
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Post by marlibu on Aug 5, 2019 17:27:13 GMT 1
Thank you.
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Post by Shadow123 on Aug 7, 2019 19:04:12 GMT 1
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Post by savoyard74 on Aug 9, 2019 17:08:45 GMT 1
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