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Post by Ravi1925 on Dec 2, 2019 19:09:56 GMT 1
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Post by ca350 on Dec 5, 2019 18:42:48 GMT 1
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Post by s543 on Dec 6, 2019 10:34:37 GMT 1
I was looking at Airbus xls what is left and I do believe in the real life there is MUCH less left than the sheet shows....
A319
7 left
2x Hamburg intenational Airlines
5x Undisclosed - i.e. China ?
A320
23 left
1x VIP
1x CASC
6x IRAN air
4x MEXICANA
7x URAL Airlines
4x Undisclosed
- how many of those will be in real life delivered - my guess - much less than HALF
A321
48 left
33x DELTA
7x IRAN air
8x UTAIR
- how about DELTA - the deliveries sort of stopped ? I will not be surprised if some neo conversion comes .... UTAIR nad IRAN air well ....
So I do believe that realistically there is the DELTA order and maybe some 10-15 pcs together ?
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Post by ca350 on Dec 6, 2019 20:45:52 GMT 1
I was looking at Airbus xls what is left and I do believe in the real life there is MUCH less left than the sheet shows.... A319 7 left 2x Hamburg intenational Airlines - (Dead)5x Undisclosed - i.e. China ? - (At least 1 for Tibet in MSN 9448) A320 23 left 1x VIP - (9313, Government of Thailand)1x CASC 6x IRAN air - (Dead if sanction continues)4x MEXICANA - (Dead)7x URAL Airlines - (Dead)4x Undisclosed (All 4 for Chengdu, 9279, 9304, 9319, 9329 all from XFW) - how many of those will be in real life delivered - my guess - much less than HALF A321 48 left 33x DELTA - (Deliveries resume very soon from 9360)aibfamily.flights/search?airline=Delta+Air+Lines&display=table&sort_results=msn_desc&group_results=true&family=A3207x IRAN air - (Dead if sanction continues)8x UTAIR - (Dead) - how about DELTA - the deliveries sort of stopped ? I will not be surprised if some neo conversion comes .... UTAIR nad IRAN air well .... So I do believe that realistically there is the DELTA order and maybe some 10-15 pcs together ? Commented inline. |
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Post by s543 on Dec 8, 2019 12:12:31 GMT 1
I agree completely - with the exception of URAL Airlines - those are living and took recently 3x neos. I do believe it might be upgraded to some composition of neos .... anyway the airline is living and flying ....
UTair is living and flying too but we do know it was saved by the government - so it is different situation.
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Post by sciing on Dec 8, 2019 12:37:16 GMT 1
I agree completely - with the exception of URAL Airlines - those are living and took recently 3x neos. I do believe it might be upgraded to some composition of neos I‘m expecting this since a while. It is quite strange that such conversion did not happened so far. |
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Post by Ravi1925 on Dec 9, 2019 19:12:39 GMT 1
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Post by starbucks on Dec 10, 2019 11:48:39 GMT 1
Per the link you added I'm curious what is happening with MSN 9027 and 9057 (since you mentioned 9360 as the next) - 9027, way out of sequence, I know Airbus doesn't build in MSN sequence, but BFM has been delivering from the 93xx numbers. Something that has come to mind is the fire suppression foam incident at the FAL in Mobile, could this one have been affected as well, that would mean two Delta frames were damaged. - 9057, apparently the last XFW built ceo for Delta looking at all the upcoming having a F-WZMx testreg. Delayed due to tariffs? In Delta's Full year 2018 report they mentioned Delta was expecting 32 A321ceo in 2019, of which 30 are delivered so far, both still up for 2019 or delayed till 2020. (The same report mentions 27x in 2020 and 3x 2021 btw  ) |
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Post by ca350 on Dec 10, 2019 19:53:54 GMT 1
Per the link you added I'm curious what is happening with MSN 9027 and 9057 (since you mentioned 9360 as the next) - 9027, way out of sequence, I know Airbus doesn't build in MSN sequence, but BFM has been delivering from the 93xx numbers. Something that has come to mind is the fire suppression foam incident at the FAL in Mobile, could this one have been affected as well, that would mean two Delta frames were damaged. Possibly. But the problem is that this incident happened in Mid-September, whereas MSN 9026 for Frontier and MSN 9025 for Delta, the two frames with the adjacent MSNs, got delivered in June and July. I'm not sure if MSN 9027 was still on the FAL when the incident happened. - 9057, apparently the last XFW built ceo for Delta looking at all the upcoming having a F-WZMx testreg. Delayed due to tariffs? Actually 9057 might not be the last Delta ceo out of XFW. MSN 10003 for Delta should be built in XFW as well according to this list. Anyway. What really puzzles me is that while AA and DL paused the deliveries from XFW since Tariff took place in October, how is JetBlue taking multiple A321N from XFW? Did they have a sales and lease back with a out-of-state lessor in place to avoid the tariff or something else? Would be curious to know. |
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Post by sciing on Dec 14, 2019 16:00:25 GMT 1
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