mjoelnir
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Post by mjoelnir on Apr 12, 2019 11:51:43 GMT 1
Would be interesting to see the leading times, when EIS would be targeted. Would it be then 2023?.. As there is information/rumore about slots in 2023 being taken, I assume EIS should be 2023 or earlier. Let us say there could be a test frame next year (2020) one year testing and EIS in 2021 perhaps? Adding MTOW, moving tanks around and some other stuff could already be a finished design in a drawer. |
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Post by s543 on Apr 12, 2019 16:35:17 GMT 1
Would be interesting to see the leading times, when EIS would be targeted. Would it be then 2023?.. As there is information/rumore about slots in 2023 being taken, I assume EIS should be 2023 or earlier. Let us say there could be a test frame next year (2020) one year testing and EIS in 2021 perhaps? Adding MTOW, moving tanks around and some other stuff could already be a finished design in a drawer. They might be waiting for some engine improvement-upgrade .... Also there simply are no slots for production earlier. But I do believe that since started AB is going to be flexible in delivering any model - I am sure that from the production point of view it is going to just one of the A32x |
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Post by stealthmanbob on Apr 12, 2019 17:10:52 GMT 1
As there is information/rumore about slots in 2023 being taken, I assume EIS should be 2023 or earlier. Let us say there could be a test frame next year (2020) one year testing and EIS in 2021 perhaps? Adding MTOW, moving tanks around and some other stuff could already be a finished design in a drawer. They might be waiting for some engine improvement-upgrade .... Also there simply are no slots for production earlier. But I do believe that since started AB is going to be flexible in delivering any model - I am sure that from the production point of view it is going to just one of the A32x There are always slots available, any airline or lease firm could convert an existing A321 order slot into an XLR version. |
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Post by s543 on Apr 12, 2019 21:26:07 GMT 1
Yes, but it will take some time to get ready.... probably 2 years or so
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mjoelnir
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Post by mjoelnir on Apr 12, 2019 21:34:10 GMT 1
Yes, but it will take some time to get ready.... probably 2 years or so That would be, as I noted above, in the year 2021. |
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Post by stealthmanbob on Apr 12, 2019 22:41:45 GMT 1
Yes, but it will take some time to get ready.... probably 2 years or so Agreed, so an airline or lease company could swap an order for a normal A321neo to an XLR version for delivery in late 2021 or early 2022 if it was ready ! |
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Post by philidor on Apr 14, 2019 23:55:57 GMT 1
There are always slots available, any airline or lease firm could convert an existing A321 order slot into an XLR version. That's exactly Airbus' conundrum : the new sub-type may bring about many conversions but few new orders. I think the reason for the large commercial drive reported by Leeham is twofold : make sure that they are going to take new orders (which requires production slots !) and that they will get better margins than just selling the -LR. |
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Post by n830mh on Apr 29, 2019 7:34:04 GMT 1
Which airlines who will orders A321XLR? What is the range? Is that 5,000nm?
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mjoelnir
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Post by mjoelnir on Apr 29, 2019 8:28:51 GMT 1
There are always slots available, any airline or lease firm could convert an existing A321 order slot into an XLR version. That's exactly Airbus' conundrum : the new sub-type may bring about many conversions but few new orders. I think the reason for the large commercial drive reported by Leeham is twofold : make sure that they are going to take new orders (which requires production slots !) and that they will get better margins than just selling the -LR. I assume narrow body order numbers is the least worry at Airbus. They are confined by their narrow body production capacity. Moving frames from a lower price range to a higher price range, is the ideal model for getting more revenue out of the same number of produced frames. |
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Post by gdumas on May 9, 2019 8:11:24 GMT 1
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