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Post by fanairbus on Oct 18, 2019 10:18:51 GMT 1
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Post by Baroque on Oct 18, 2019 12:25:05 GMT 1
I still feel there's more to this than just an MTOW increase to 319T. They're just not willing to disclose them publicly in this competition. |
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Post by marlibu on Oct 18, 2019 13:23:36 GMT 1
I completely agree, it would be pretty much a "bespoke" airframe to complete a particular task. This is just my opinion anyhow. In time we should hear tidbits...hopefully..probably..possibly...😊
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Post by philidor on Oct 18, 2019 17:17:17 GMT 1
Can’t believe Airbus has a Director of Freighter Marketing. What does he do all day !!?? Nothing been sold or offered for years. Well, marketing isn't the same as sales - sometimes you want to enter a new market ! You may think about competitor monitoring or business intelligence. |
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Post by philidor on Oct 18, 2019 17:31:18 GMT 1
I completely agree, it would be pretty much a "bespoke" airframe to complete a particular task. This is just my opinion anyhow. In time we should hear tidbits...hopefully..probably..possibly...😊 That doesn't seem to be the case, though we don't know all the details. In the following story from 'Runway girl network' A350 head of product marketing Marisa Lucas-Ugena is quoted as stating that Airbus is offering the A350-1000, not an extra-fuel-tank ultra-long-range ULR subtype. She further contends that in 2022 the aircraft will be capable of flying 380 passengers for 8700nm, without an extra fuel tank. runwaygirlnetwork.com/2019/10/16/airbus-plans-upgraded-but-non-ulr-a350-1000-for-project-sunrise/ |
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Post by someone on Oct 18, 2019 20:38:19 GMT 1
I completely agree, it would be pretty much a "bespoke" airframe to complete a particular task. This is just my opinion anyhow. In time we should hear tidbits...hopefully..probably..possibly...😊 That doesn't seem to be the case, though we don't know all the details. In the following story from 'Runway girl network' A350 head of product marketing Marisa Lucas-Ugena is quoted as stating that Airbus is offering the A350-1000, not an extra-fuel-tank ultra-long-range ULR subtype. She further contends that in 2022 the aircraft will be capable of flying 380 passengers for 8700nm, without an extra fuel tank. runwaygirlnetwork.com/2019/10/16/airbus-plans-upgraded-but-non-ulr-a350-1000-for-project-sunrise/From my understanding they currently run out of fuel volume available for these flight, what ever the MTOW is? |
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Post by philidor on Oct 19, 2019 18:43:06 GMT 1
From my understanding they currently run out of fuel volume available for these flight, what ever the MTOW is? The fact that Airbus is offering Qantas an A35K that can perform the Sunrise mission without an additional fuel tank means that the aircraft wings can tank much more fuel than was previously announced. We had data appearing to show that A359s can carry much more fuel than A35Ks, which couldn't be true (the wing is the same !). I suppose that Airbus intends to introduce a new software allowing airlines to use more tanking space in the A35K wing. An engine PIP saving a lot of fuel on such long routes might be another part of the plan. |
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Post by mjoelnir on Oct 19, 2019 20:08:34 GMT 1
From my understanding they currently run out of fuel volume available for these flight, what ever the MTOW is? The fact that Airbus is offering Qantas an A35K that can perform the Sunrise mission without an additional fuel tank means that the aircraft wings can tank much more fuel than was previously announced. We had data appearing to show that A359s can carry much more fuel than A35Ks, which couldn't be true (the wing is the same !). I suppose that Airbus intends to introduce a new software allowing airlines to use more tanking space in the A35K wing. An engine PIP saving a lot of fuel on such long routes might be another part of the plan. The question remains, are 165,000 l (the limit for the A350-900) enough, or is the possible volume even bigger on the A350-1000. Are the wing tanks the same? Is the center tank bigger on the A350-1000? Or has the 165,000 l on the A350-900ULR been overkill? |
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Post by philidor on Oct 19, 2019 23:25:04 GMT 1
The question remains, are 165,000 l (the limit for the A350-900) enough, or is the possible volume even bigger on the A350-1000. Are the wing tanks the same? Is the center tank bigger on the A350-1000? Or has the 165,000 l on the A350-900ULR been overkill? I agree with you, we don't have all the details, and yours are good questions. My own guess is that an engine PIP, increasing the distance you can cover with any fuel volume, might be part of the answer. |
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Post by mtrunz on Oct 27, 2019 17:17:59 GMT 1
There are two inaugural A350 flights into Toronto today: Air France A350-900 and Cathay Pacific A350-1000.
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