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Post by limoncello on Dec 19, 2013 17:02:59 GMT 1
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Post by limoncello on Dec 28, 2013 10:12:03 GMT 1
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Post by Flying Dutchman on Dec 28, 2013 13:31:47 GMT 1
At least delay it
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s543
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Post by s543 on Dec 28, 2013 13:49:11 GMT 1
Not anytime soon - if ever
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Post by peter on Dec 28, 2013 16:51:25 GMT 1
Msn 021 is the first _841. And I think it will be, because the program still runs
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Post by mjoelnir on Dec 28, 2013 17:33:25 GMT 1
Msn 021 is the first _841. And I think it will be, because the program still runs IMO if Airbus wants to keep the A350-800 alive, the best way would be to come with it soon. There are still some 69 orders out there, as long there is the question if it will ever be build, more orders will not materialize.
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Post by Flying Dutchman on Dec 28, 2013 17:55:54 GMT 1
Again Boeing and Airbus avoids direct competition by offering different sizes of AC? the -800 being to close to the 787?
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Post by philidor on Dec 28, 2013 19:11:40 GMT 1
Not anytime soon - if ever Airbus has to address that market segment, and a small A350 family member is the most efficient available solution. The -800 is the intended aircraft but, as a simple shrink, it struggles to compete with the B789. Airbus has been inciting customers to shift their orders from the -800 to the -900. Yet, Airbus has kept saying that they are committed to the -800 ... One possible explanation is that Airbus intends to delay the -800 (to ease -900 production ramp up) and improve its design, making it an optimised aircraft instead of a simple shrink. Do the heavy TXWB allow this ?
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Post by mjoelnir on Dec 29, 2013 0:24:39 GMT 1
Not anytime soon - if ever Airbus has to address that market segment, and a small A350 family member is the most efficient available solution. The -800 is the intended aircraft but, as a simple shrink, it struggles to compete with the B789. Airbus has been inciting customers to shift their orders from the -800 to the -900. Yet, Airbus has kept saying that they are committed to the -800 ... One possible explanation is that Airbus intends to delay the -800 (to ease -900 production ramp up) and improve its design, making it an optimised aircraft instead of a simple shrink. Do the heavy TXWB allow this ? IMO we will see the first A350-800 reaching the FAL in the Q2 or Q3 in 2015. Keeping the A350-800 very similar to the 900, like the A319 to the A320, will make it easy to fit it into the A350-900 production, easy to certify and fast to the market.
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Post by s543 on Dec 29, 2013 15:59:08 GMT 1
Airbus has to address that market segment, and a small A350 family member is the most efficient available solution. The -800 is the intended aircraft but, as a simple shrink, it struggles to compete with the B789. Airbus has been inciting customers to shift their orders from the -800 to the -900. Yet, Airbus has kept saying that they are committed to the -800 ... One possible explanation is that Airbus intends to delay the -800 (to ease -900 production ramp up) and improve its design, making it an optimised aircraft instead of a simple shrink. Do the heavy TXWB allow this ? IMO we will see the first A350-800 reaching the FAL in the Q2 or Q3 in 2015. Keeping the A350-800 very similar to the 900, like the A319 to the A320, will make it easy to fit it into the A350-900 production, easy to certify and fast to the market. I doubt it is going to happen in 2015 - I do believe it is not going to happen before 2016.... But who knows
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