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Post by philidor on Mar 10, 2013 17:51:11 GMT 1
Regarding the production, even when they're cleared for flight again we can't expect a huge wave of deliveries, because most of the frames are stuck in the stage before first flight, right? Would they start outfitting before first flight because of these circumstances? 787s are fully outfitted/customized before first flight. That is why Boeing officially hopes to catch back before year end if flights are allowed. Changes to the battery system, including the containment box, may however take several months, possibly delaying many deliveries to next year. I don't know however if customers will accept new deliveries even though the ETOPS issue remains unclear.
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Post by everton44 on Mar 11, 2013 23:06:06 GMT 1
I saw the LOT 787 sitting at O'Hare today. She is in full livery, visable from the highway. She looked a little lonely all by herself.
Hope to see her in the air again soon.
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Post by Baroque on Mar 11, 2013 23:33:51 GMT 1
I saw the LOT 787 sitting at O'Hare today. She is in full livery, visable from the highway. She looked a little lonely all by herself. Hope to see her in the air again soon. You can't help but feel sorry for LOT, when they had to cancel the inaugural international 787 flight party on the day it was grounded. A major PR hit for a small airline.
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Post by XWB on Mar 12, 2013 21:47:17 GMT 1
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Post by everton44 on Mar 13, 2013 23:00:14 GMT 1
I saw the LOT 787 sitting at O'Hare today. She is in full livery, visable from the highway. She looked a little lonely all by herself. Hope to see her in the air again soon. You can't help but feel sorry for LOT, when they had to cancel the inaugural international 787 flight party on the day it was grounded. A major PR hit for a small airline. I got a good look at this plane as we taxied out. It is right on the end of the taxiway. It looks odd, as this plane has been sitting for quite a while, but the engines are uncovered. It seems like that by now, they would have taken some measure to protect it for a long term parking. Sorry, my camera was stowed.
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Post by noistar on Mar 14, 2013 1:33:32 GMT 1
Regarding the production, even when they're cleared for flight again we can't expect a huge wave of deliveries, because most of the frames are stuck in the stage before first flight, right? Would they start outfitting before first flight because of these circumstances? 787s are fully outfitted/customized before first flight. That is why Boeing officially hopes to catch back before year end if flights are allowed. Changes to the battery system, including the containment box, may however take several months, possibly delaying many deliveries to next year. I don't know however if customers will accept new deliveries even though the ETOPS issue remains unclear. I thought the reason things like outfitting and painting were 'left 'til last' was because of the expense if delays subsequently affected acceptance. Or perhaps things are improved so much that this is an unnecessary fail-safe. Obviously Airbus have 'politics' to accommodate.
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Post by FabienA380 on Mar 16, 2013 22:37:44 GMT 1
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Post by philidor on Mar 17, 2013 2:11:31 GMT 1
Too much spin does not work in Boeing's favour. Boeing should in my opinion avoid arrogance and at least pretend to take the FAA seriously. When they speak of weeks before flying again, they seem to expect the FAA to rubber-stamp their application. They have a test program to execute, and if it is expedited the return to flight may not look very serious ...
They have to test, achieve certification, retrofit the planes ... This takes time!
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Post by addasih on Mar 18, 2013 18:14:16 GMT 1
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Post by Baroque on Mar 20, 2013 1:11:32 GMT 1
The issue still at hand is whether they've adequately tested it to address the abnormal failure rate of the batteries which are critical for the operation of the APU. They've tightened the voltage limits but was that ever the cause for certain in the first place?
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